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Old 09-February-2006, 15:20
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Question Does Any1 Use FrostWire?

Hiya!
Just wondered if anyone uses frostwire. Or if anyone has actually heard of it? If not, go to http://www.frostwire.com
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Old 10-February-2006, 21:01
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not seen it, not used it. dont really do any p2p at all these days.

quick glance suggests yet another bittorrent clone.

Whats the point? dont they all do the same thing the same way in the end?
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Old 13-February-2006, 12:08
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not seen it, not used it. dont really do any p2p at all these days.

quick glance suggests yet another bittorrent clone.

Whats the point? dont they all do the same thing the same way in the end?
Originally Posted by Memfis
Its absolutely nothing like BitTorrent. Its almost exactly the same as LimeWire, except it is totally free and does not contain any spy, mal or ad ware (trust me, i know).
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Old 02-March-2006, 12:12
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Does anyone use limewire? If so, i have some rather important news that you should know, and you probably wont use limewire ever again after hearing it.
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Old 03-March-2006, 13:58
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spill the beans then.........
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Old 06-March-2006, 13:58
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As you may already know, all of the searches you perform and files you download have to go through servers located in various places of the world. However, because limewire searches lots of different p-2-p networks, so you would expect the client to connect directly to those servers of the different networks. However, that is not the case. Limewire actually communicates with server farms located in various places of the world before it communicates with the other p-2-p network servers. These server farms that limewire connects to are owned by private companies who are not owned by limewire, but play a huge role in keeping this network going. The companies behind these server farms are small businesses with typically 10 employees per branch who monitor all of the clients' searches, uploads and downloads and shared files. If an employee at one of these server farms finds a client with a large amount (2500+ files, or 8+gb) of shared copyrighted files, the employee will report this to the owner of the copyrighted material (for example, sony music), and, usually, further actions are taken. Sony would contact the police and the client would either be fined (typically 1000), or in more serious cases, have all of their computer equipment permanently taken from them, without any refund in money. Then, the company who told the copyright holder will get a reward (usually 40)

Your main question now would be how do i know all of this information? Well, one of my uncle's friends works for one of these companies, and its his job to do this on a daily basis.

You may also be thinking how would using frostwire avoid this, when it is exactly the same as limewire? Its actually totally different. Frostwire still goes through servers, but these servers are much smaller, have high speed internet connections (30m/s) and do not log or monitor any of your searches, downloads or uploads or shared files. You may be wondering how do i know this. Because ive got one.

dont tell anyone!
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Old 31-March-2006, 12:51
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PS before the end of the year (they hope in a few month), limewire are only gonna let people download files that are DRM protected. This will be greatly helped by the release of Microsoft's Windows Vista, due to be released commercially in November. I'd make the switch now while you can: FrostWire
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Old 10-May-2006, 18:47
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From the Limewire team:
"LimeWire is a software tool that enables peer-to-peer file sharing on the Gnutella network with high redundancy and without the need for server farms".
The source code is freely available and not one other report of this nature exists.
Napster used central database technology and this meant that it was not a true peer to peer network. It's collapse spurred filesharing "organisations" on to develop systems that negated the need for such a database. It is this development that has led to the huge success of true P2P or "self organizing" networks and the inability of those concerned to curb it's usage.
Many, many papers by some very respectable authors in many fields are available on all aspects of the true P2P phenomenon.

It should be noted that only version 4 and above of Frostwire are regarded as malware free. Far from recommending it, none of the major P2P portals such as ZeroPaid etc even list Frostwire.
That's not to say it's a poor client, but it's certainly not popular among the masses.

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Old 10-May-2006, 23:11
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as ive already explained, frostwire is exactly like limewire, except it does not contain any malware (after version 4, im told.) However, when limewire fully makes the switch to all drm protected files, frostwire will not. because of this, frostwire is a growning p2p client, and is totally free.

however, what you said about server farms is partially correct, but not fully. there is a central server in america which logs all searches and downloads on the network, but no searches or downloads go through this server; the client sends a message to the server.
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Old 11-May-2006, 00:21
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as ive already explained, frostwire is exactly like limewire, except it does not contain any malware (after version 4, im told.) However, when limewire fully makes the switch to all drm protected files, frostwire will not. because of this, frostwire is a growning p2p client, and is totally free.

however, what you said about server farms is partially correct, but not fully. there is a central server in america which logs all searches and downloads on the network, but no searches or downloads go through this server; the client sends a message to the server.
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Can you offer any concrete evidence to back up these statements? I haven't investigated Limewire in any depth although I have studied the Gnutella and similar networks in general.
I would like some factual pointers as to where this server is, what it consists of, who maintains it, method of connection, what data is collected, how long it's stored and who has access to it.
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Old 11-May-2006, 02:46
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Your main question now would be how do i know all of this information? Well, one of my uncle's friends works for one of these companies, and its his job to do this on a daily basis.

dont tell anyone!
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He he he! Heresay I say. If this were the case it would be common knowlege. I think someone is yanking your chain me old fruit.
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Old 11-May-2006, 11:13
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He he he! Heresay I say. If this were the case it would be common knowlege. I think someone is yanking your chain me old fruit.
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no, seriously. i cant tell you his name or his email addy, but he lives in london and develops bearshare. if anything is happening with any of the p2p networks, he'll be the one to know.
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Old 11-May-2006, 11:19
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if the network can be searched and the clients list their files then it is open to ppl working out what files others have and sending those details to copyright holders (or whatever)

makes no difference if there are 10 servers or 10,000 servers the method will work in both cases?

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Old 11-May-2006, 12:27
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if the network can be searched and the clients list their files then it is open to ppl working out what files others have and sending those details to copyright holders (or whatever)

makes no difference if there are 10 servers or 10,000 servers the method will work in both cases?

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i dont quite understand the point youre making here?
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Old 12-May-2006, 21:30
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I think Silver is trying to say that there is no need to waste money, time and effort on an expensive centralised "farming" server. The nature of P2P is that users IPs and what they are up/downloading is broadcast. The RIAA etc have no need for such equipment.
This of course is now patently obvious to those who have been sued for transporting copyrighted material over the Bit Torrent networks.
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Old 12-May-2006, 21:57
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i dont quite understand the point youre making here?
Originally Posted by Olozzj
perhaps I misunderstood, I thought you were implying frostwire was somehow safer due to the way the searching works / number of servers,.

either or both are trivial for whoever to find ppl sharing copyright material since anyone can join the network as a peer

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Old 13-May-2006, 11:18
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ah. i understand now. ure saying that theres no need for a central server. i dont see the point either, cos all someone from te riaa needs to do is get a hold of a client and do a search for a music track, video, program etc, and get all the results.
its a little strange why theres a central server.
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Old 03-November-2006, 16:31
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I dont know all about that server stuff but I have used limewire for over a year and recently switched to FrostWire. I have to say its pretty much the same as limewire, except way better. its way faster, im getting more results per search, and its just easyer to use. If you are using lime wire u might want to switch.
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Old 15-November-2006, 00:58
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I use FrostWire whenever it lets me connect, which is not very often. It's a piece of junk. No body replys to the email at bugs@frostwire.com. Don't waste your time.
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Old 18-November-2006, 01:08
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Hi Goose47:

I am running Frostwire on both Windows XP SP2 and Mac OS X 10.4.5. I'm able to connect fine on both platforms (with good connection -- i might add). I'm able to search and download files on both platforms.

By the way, I'm also running Firefox 2 and Thunderbird 1.5 (with webmail extensions) on both platforms.

My two cents...
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Old 09-December-2006, 10:55
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FrostWire version @version@
Java version 1.5.0_05 from Sun Microsystems Inc.
Windows XP v. 5.1 on x86
Free/total memory: 3175288/4128768

com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.GUILoader$StartupFailed Exception: .\jl011.jar (Access is denied)
at com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.GUILoader.sanityCheck(G UILoader.java:292)
at com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.GUILoader.load(GUILoade r.java:40)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.Main.main(Main.java:43)

STARTUP ERROR!




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Old 28-December-2007, 15:26
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I have a problem with a company called MP3musicHQ.com. I went to download Frostwire and stupidly paid for it. The proper Frostwire website is free I was conned. I have just looked at my credit card statement and I see that they have unlawfully taken out 6 GBP or there abouts. I have looked for their site but it doesnt exist. Has anyone else been caught like me and what have they done about it.
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I have a problem with a company called MP3musicHQ.com. I went to download Frostwire and stupidly paid for it. The proper Frostwire website is free I was conned. I have just looked at my credit card statement and I see that they have unlawfully taken out 6 GBP or there abouts. I have looked for their site but it doesnt exist. Has anyone else been caught like me and what have they done about it.
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You've been conned (obviously), so contact your bank and tell them the situation and follow their advice.
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Old 29-December-2007, 19:49
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The people who develop Limewire were going to release a new version which included blocking code, which would refuse to do any illegal downloading.

Some Limewire developers were annoyed by this so they started their own thing, Frostwire, which is a version of Limewire without blocking code. Also, they will not ask for money for any version of Frostwire, because they like open source.

Thats how I think the story goes. The reason to use Frostwire instead of Limewire is Limewire prevents piracy, so if you are a pirate all you get is a load of blocks.

I tried to use Limewire a long time ago and it confused me no end and drove me barmy, I do not know why. I don't do much p2p, but I always use a bittorrent client, because it seems straightforward.
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Okay question..how do i get my files from frostwire to play in itunes? and if anyone can give me any info on how good frostwire is or how to use all of its features that would be helpful!!
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I use Frostwire, at least I don't have to pay for it and now avoid downloading fake versions of Limewire Pro! There is some truth about the servers. I know for a fact that one organisation was giving information to police. They had set filters up for certain material such as porn and used keywords to track IP numbers of distributors. This resulted in a number of people being prosecuted for possession and distribution of child porn in the UK in the last 5 years. The organisations that turned informant were hoping a blind eye could be turned in exchange for information and it is to some extent.
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