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Old 13-February-2008, 10:23
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People in the UK who go online and illegally download music and films may have their internet access cut under plans the government is considering.

A draft consultation suggests internet service providers would be required to take action over users who access pirated material via their accounts.

But the government is stressing that plans are at an early stage and it is still working on final proposals.

Six million people a year are estimated to download files illegally in the UK.

Music and film companies say that the illegal downloads cost them millions of pounds in lost revenues.

The government proposals were first reported by the Times newspaper.

The Department for Culture, Media and Sport said that early drafts of the document had been circulated among stakeholders.

"The content and proposals for the strategy have been significantly developed since then and a comprehensive plan to bolster the UK's creative industries will be published shortly," it added.

"We will not comment on the content of the leaked document."

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The Times suggested that broadband firms which failed to enforce the rules could be prosecuted, and the details of customers suspected of making illegal downloads made available to the courts.

According to the Times, the draft paper states: "We will move to legislate to require internet service providers to take action on illegal file sharing."

Some of the UK's biggest internet providers, such as BT, Virgin and Tiscali have been in talks with the entertainment industry over introducing a voluntary scheme for policing pirate activity, but no agreement has been reached.

So far, they have failed to resolve how disputed allegations would be arbitrated - for example, when customers claim other people have been "piggybacking" on their internet service.

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Technology that allows internet providers to monitor what content is being downloaded is becoming more effective, said James Bates, media director at consultants Deloitte.

"This is also likely to help accelerate the process of identifying pirates, and may lead to swifter disconnection, or prosecution," Mr Bates said.

However, the Internet Service Providers Association said data protection laws would prevent providers from looking at the content of information sent over their networks.
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Published: 2008/02/12 20:25:55 GMT
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Old 16-February-2008, 00:38
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Remains to be seen what will come of this. Getting kicked from your isp for using the bandwidth they sell you is teh nonsense.

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Old 13-October-2009, 18:04
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before they tackle pirate downloads etc, it would be more popular and good for normal people if they tried to eliminate child porn on the internet. the technology is fantastic but tarnished by a few twisted creeps. moruman.
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Old 19-October-2009, 14:44
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How about charging reasnoble prices instead of forcing people into downloading music/games etc, 78p for a song which I can download twice is extortion!

Piracy is easy, the only way to begin to combat that effectively is make the alternative even easier a la cheaper prices, hitting everyone with a ban stick is just going to push things even further underground and turn a large majority of the planets population in to criminals.
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Old 20-October-2009, 03:09
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How about charging reasnoble prices instead of forcing people into downloading music/games etc, 78p for a song which I can download twice is extortion!

Piracy is easy, the only way to begin to combat that effectively is make the alternative even easier a la cheaper prices, hitting everyone with a ban stick is just going to push things even further underground and turn a large majority of the planets population in to criminals.
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I f they actually succeeded stopping the file sharing, the number of isp's would probably reduce , as the demand would cease,to, as what is the point to having a high download speed to browse send+receive e-mail's when pay per use dial up will do that? the way i see it is,if it was not for the vast amount of file sharing the Internet would not be as grate as it is today, intact it probably is responsible for why it is so popular, what bugs me is these fat cat companies film+music ect whine about how much money they loose because of joe bloggs sharing it over the net, is not founded, as the majority of the people who download it and maybe go one to share it again, would not go and buy it anyway,so how are they loosing out??? it's lies,and propaganda from the government,again,with the help of the bbc who is kept alive due to government intervention of the refusal to scrap the license fee, why? because it is bias towards the government(so matter which party is in power)bbc trust my ****
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Old 20-October-2009, 13:15
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I don't know 78p for something you can keep forever that brings pleasure (presumably) I don't think is expensive,. so long as you can do what you like with it (not DRM locked) so can make your own CDs etc it seems like great value to me

a cup of tea in a plastic cup costs about that amount from a vending machine
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I don't know 78p for something you can keep forever that brings pleasure (presumably) I don't think is expensive,. so long as you can do what you like with it (not DRM locked) so can make your own CDs etc it seems like great value to me

a cup of tea in a plastic cup costs about that amount from a vending machine
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On the grand scale of things you're right its not much and yes its fair value for one song that you might listen to countless times but we don't own a few songs each most of us have 100s if not 1000s of MP3s on our PCs.

Im sure all of us would like to know all our music was legit and helping the artists we respect and love but theres no way we'd be able to justify spending that much on music. If we all stuck to 78p a track album sales would plumit because people would only pay for the individual songs they like ultimately leading to a reduction in sales? As far as I was aware artists and record companies make most of their money from album sales, tours, gigs and not singles.

Its a tough cookie to crack but I can guarantee playing hard ball with illegal downloads which consitute most of the worlds Internet users isn't going to help anyone, maybe it'll require an approach which involves hardline yet greatly reduced prices, personally I'd want to see tracks at around 30p before I'd consider purchasing anything.
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On the grand scale of things you're right its not much and yes its fair value for one song that you might listen to countless times but we don't own a few songs each most of us have 100s if not 1000s of MP3s on our PCs.

Im sure all of us would like to know all our music was legit and helping the artists we respect and love but theres no way we'd be able to justify spending that much on music. If we all stuck to 78p a track album sales would plumit because people would only pay for the individual songs they like ultimately leading to a reduction in sales? As far as I was aware artists and record companies make most of their money from album sales, tours, gigs and not singles.

Its a tough cookie to crack but I can guarantee playing hard ball with illegal downloads which consitute most of the worlds Internet users isn't going to help anyone, maybe it'll require an approach which involves hardline yet greatly reduced prices, personally I'd want to see tracks at around 30p before I'd consider purchasing anything.
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the thing with music is it becomes worthless over time,i have 100s of cd albums and cd singles they are worthless now,at the time a cd single was around 3.80 each some where more,i wish i had of had my internet connection back then, i would of saved a fortune,(btw at the time i was a dj) hence all the cd's, i can remember all those mp3 sites (not p2p) that posted upto date top 40 singles each week, but they all got stopped, the music industry have had it too good for years now,they too will have to take a pay cut
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