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Old 04-August-2005, 12:35
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4740403.stm

One for you WL...

Shame I think, should have let the guy go as he saw fit...
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Old 04-August-2005, 13:58
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Default Re: One for you WL...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4740403.stm

One for you WL...

Shame I think, should have let the guy go as he saw fit...
Originally Posted by puggsley1980
from the link, the guys next door neighbours
"We didn't really know him. We just had him arrested," she said.
Hmm Nice people

You'd think they should have had a word with the guy to try and work something out, like fences or screens etc before legal stuff.

Its deffo a shortcoming in us that we should be offended by the human form,

adam and eve have a lot to answer for.
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Old 04-August-2005, 17:36
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The 82-year-old said he wanted to be buried in his birthday suit - but his family are having none of it.
Curses on them for not respecting the wishes of the deceased. So much for dying wishes!!!

Why the fuss? Wasn't he going to be buried or cremated in a coffin?

My late father in law was a great do it yourself fan and I offered to knock up a coffin for his funeral - the family refused! I reckon it would have given him a great send off.

It was very moving for me to drive his hand painted Morris Minor to the funeral..........
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Old 04-August-2005, 18:36
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We're born nekked so why cant he be buried nekked?
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Old 05-August-2005, 05:51
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Wonder what the business prospects are for transparent naturist coffins

Maybe a true naturist would not want to be clothed in earth but put on a platform in the open air and absorbed by nature
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Old 05-August-2005, 07:01
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Wonder what the business prospects are for transparent naturist coffins

Maybe a true naturist would not want to be clothed in earth but put on a platform in the open air and absorbed by nature
Originally Posted by Worldlife
....which would mean in essence consumed as carrion, providing presumably you had some tasty bits

Not having any knowledge about the subject surely there is a great differance between a naturist and an exhibitionist.

With discretion the former can enjoy his liberation, but adopting the latter will find that liberation quickly denied.

Far better then to liberate yourself from the mind and just here is as good a place as any to make a start
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Old 05-August-2005, 07:53
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Guess a transparent coffin would be one for the exhibitionists....

Most naturist's are not exhibitionists - they merely like being without their clothes!

What constitutes exhibitionism can be in the eyes of the beholder.

Had an interesting experience when a naturist complex we visited also catered for lifestyle people. As naturists we thought the "lifestyle" people were exhibiting themselves in a provocative manner wearing thongs, microskirts and high heels! (mainly the women )

Naturists generally feel there is no sexual element in being together socially or in sports activities without clothes

However I guess "textiles" (clothed people) would regard the naturists as exhibitionists merely for being in the pool area without clothes.

As a naturist I have found the rare exhibitionist. On a UK site we saw a chap with an enormous todger. He always found a seat near a busy pathway and used to sit with his legs wide apart. Whilst he may have merely been sunbathing his member I suspect that he was deliberately displaying it.

So I think that exhibitionism is in the body language and attitude of the person involved and reflected in the attitudes of the beholder.


On the link to the book ... Guess you are too busy living in the present to have had time to write a review The reviewss to date are quite varied!
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Old 05-August-2005, 09:24
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Maybe a true naturist would not want to be clothed in earth but put on a platform in the open air and absorbed by nature
Originally Posted by Worldlife
You of all people should be aware that that contraviences Health and Safety.
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Old 05-August-2005, 09:28
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On the link to the book ... Guess you are too busy living in the present to have had time to write a review The reviewss to date are quite varied!
Originally Posted by Worldlife
trust me, its worth a read, the best £7 I have ever spent
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Old 05-August-2005, 09:35
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I know how it ends

My bro is one for pushing books at me constantly about how to fulfill you life.

He's got countless failed relationships behind him, gets to see his kids 3 days a week.

Me? Been with the same woman since 1983, two beautiful well behaved kids and I'm as happy as larry (well his brother).

So I'm always a little wary of people pushing books at me deezel (with the greatest of respect mate )

Like I said before - I dont need books. My family are my constant inspiration.


About open air burials - isnt this practiced somewhere in the world? They're just put on top of a platform in an isolated place and the vultures eat you?

I think they are fully clothed anyway.

How did we get onto W/L's fav subject anyway?
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Old 05-August-2005, 09:49
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I know how it ends

My bro is one for pushing books at me constantly about how to fulfill you life.

He's got countless failed relationships behind him, gets to see his kids 3 days a week.

Me? Been with the same woman since 1983, two beautiful well behaved kids and I'm as happy as larry (well his brother).

So I'm always a little wary of people pushing books at me deezel (with the greatest of respect mate )

Like I said before - I dont need books. My family are my constant inspiration
Originally Posted by talktalktalk
You remind me of the person who when asked if he had tried a pint of 'Guinness' replied,

No, I have never tried it cos I don't like it.

Anyways ttt, you have nothing to fear, all you could lose is your 'illusions'
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Old 05-August-2005, 09:54
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I think that the point TTT was trying to make is 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'

If your unhappy in your life then i'm sure self improvement is a something to look into.

But if your perfectly happy with teh way things are, then why waste your time??

Happiness is where you find it, book or family, happy is happy.
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:06
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Thats it puggs

Rest assured if I needed what that book has to offer I'd read it mate

I'm not against these kind of books per se - exactly the opposite.

Although I'd love to know how many of the authors end up divorced etc etc.

Like the guy who started jogging - died of a heart attack didnt he?

I just think that if you try really hard all the answers to "life the universe and everything" lies closer to home.

I know a lot of people, friends who are into all that stuff.

They're always "looking" for something. "seeking" this truth or that truth.

When they think they've found it what do they do?

Start looking for a new one
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:08
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....the answers to "life the universe and everything"
Originally Posted by talktalktalk
Come on Talky everyone know the answer, its 42.
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:08
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Default Re: One for you WL...

I think that the point TTT was trying to make is 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'

If your unhappy in your life then i'm sure self improvement is a something to look into.

But if your perfectly happy with teh way things are, then why waste your time??

Happiness is where you find it, book or family, happy is happy.
Originally Posted by puggsley1980


Has it ever occured to either of you that unhappiness doesn't have to be the pre-requisite of reading.

Its something you can do to widen your experience, you dont actually need to be unhappy.

The books I have suggested, though they have great powers to improve and educate anyones life are not some refuge for the 'desperate' or even unhappy and its telling that that should be your response.

Sounds like you are just the sort of peeps who could get the best use from them.

Highly Recommended, especially fot ttt

Methiinks he doth protest too much
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:11
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Whats more deezel you always seem to take the opinion that I am at some great loss from not reading it mate

you have nothing to fear, all you could lose is your 'illusions'
The only illusion I have is that I will get back to a size 32 waist

(although I am down to 34 so one never knows )
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:13
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Rest assured if I needed what that book has to offer I'd read it mate

Originally Posted by talktalktalk

Classic 'Guinness' quote

...rest me case
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:14
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Methiinks he doth protest too much
Another great shakey quote (isnt it )
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:15
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And I prefer Beamish
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:19
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........



The only illusion I have is .....
Originally Posted by talktalktalk
How would you know
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:20
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Ha ha, good point Dee.
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:23
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unless just the point is an illusion.

Just us three again hey.

I sense the circular conversatin approaching and I HAVE to get this brochure done.

So catch ya later
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Old 05-August-2005, 10:34
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Its gone awful quiet on this thread



...also reminds me of that saying 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'


perhaps, instead of deriding a genuine offer and attempting to humiliate the giver a polite silence would have been more appropiate or perhaps that is too much to ask from the one


....who has everything

and trust me, as we are talking 'object' everything, its here today, gone tomorrow.

What you gonna do then when it all falls away


.........and it will
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Old 05-August-2005, 11:48
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Would you offer a drink to a drowning man?

Would you offer a meal to a 25st person?

So why offer 'a better life' to someone who is happy with theirs?

When it all falls away, i will look back and say 'yes, i was happy and enjoyed my life'.

Before you read a book, look inside yourself, if you can read that and survive you don't need the book.
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Old 05-August-2005, 12:22
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Would you offer a drink to a drowning man?

Would you offer a meal to a 25st person?

So why offer 'a better life' to someone who is happy with theirs?

When it all falls away, i will look back and say 'yes, i was happy and enjoyed my life'.

Before you read a book, look inside yourself, if you can read that and survive you don't need the book.
Originally Posted by puggsley1980
You seem to be missing the point, I originally suggested this book to anyone who may be interested, and if it could be construed that it was to anyone in particular (which it was not) then it would have been wl.

The fact that both you and ttt reacted in the way you have is history and is in itself , revealing.

Methinks now, you doth protest too much too
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Old 05-August-2005, 12:31
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I NEVER dogged your book Dee, or your right to peddle it. I DID defend Talky’s right to live without it. You seemed to be incapable of accepting the fact that he is happy without any kind of psycho-babble in his life, responding each time to his rejection of your book with a reiteration of his need to read it.

It’s like saying:

A ‘you need to convert to Judaism’

B ‘no thanks, I’m happy with the way my life is’

A ‘no, you just think you are, become a Jew and you’ll see you were never happy in the first place’

B ‘No. really, I’m fine’

A ‘No your not, become a Jew’

B ‘…’

I never rejected the ideals of your book, just the need for talky (or me) to read it.

Accept it at that and don’t be so over sensitive.

I’m sure plenty of people on TS will find it fascinating and want to talk into the wee hours about it. So next post from one of them please….

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Old 05-August-2005, 12:50
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perhaps, instead of deriding a genuine offer and attempting to humiliate the giver a polite silence would have been more appropiate or perhaps that is too much to ask from the one
Originally Posted by deezel
It was him - not me!!!!

The problem I find is that there are too many books - thousands of them going cheap at our local charity bookshop. Unfortunately you have stressed me out with the thought of paying the full price for a new book and worried me into thinking that there is an important book I should read but haven't found the time to do so.

Is it a good thing to stress people out this way?
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Old 05-August-2005, 13:11
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Quiet?

I've been extremely busy.

deezel if I gave the impression i was in some way
deriding a genuine offer
then I apologise.

I wasnt Its exactly like puggs said mate.

I dont need it personally. But I am also sure that any who do will find your link extremely helpful
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Old 05-August-2005, 13:20
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I NEVER dogged your book Dee, or your right to peddle it. I DID defend Talky’s right to live without it. You seemed to be incapable of accepting the fact that he is happy without any kind of psycho-babble in his life, responding each time to his rejection of your book with a reiteration of his need to read it.

It’s like saying:

A ‘you need to convert to Judaism’

B ‘no thanks, I’m happy with the way my life is’

A ‘no, you just think you are, become a Jew and you’ll see you were never happy in the first place’

B ‘No. really, I’m fine’

A ‘No your not, become a Jew’

B ‘…’

I never rejected the ideals of your book, just the need for talky (or me) to read it.

Accept it at that and don’t be so over sensitive.

I’m sure plenty of people on TS will find it fascinating and want to talk into the wee hours about it. So next post from one of them please….

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Originally Posted by puggsley1980


pots and kettles here, but might be worth while getting the chronology right.

Point of order btw: its not my book and I'm not peddling it,

wish it was

It was a general suggestion originally as I thought some peeps might find the book interesting,

as they are incidently, and why not , not everyone has to take the pi$$ as an immediate reaction


....and if ttt hadn't reacted so vehemently and given us the story of his life in one post I am sure it would have remained that way.

Incidently, anyone who is happy doesn't need to broadcast it quite so loud and with such small justification.

Thats the basic truth here btw

Anyways, I aimed the post @ no one, but it sure seems to have snagged a couple though

As said, the post was not aimed @ anyone in particular

Replies that followed were to ott reactions.......end of

You seem to have a short memory anyways (pm)
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Old 05-August-2005, 13:48
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Okay accepted.

But i need no justification for my happyness. And i really could not care less if anyone here acres or not (Which they probably don't)

I still think your being over sensitive, but hey aren't we all once in a while!

Peace!
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