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30-August-2005, 23:15
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Aol now are having that the whole network upgrade to a new broadband network and have a pop up everytime you start-up aol telling you to upgrade and download this software by the 31 of sept. Anyone who had their connection downgraded so would have a fully valid reason to end their contract and go elsewhere!
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30-August-2005, 23:39
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man that just sucks balls.
my voyager modem is locken in my dads room and he's on holiday. i really need the internet now as i havent used it for anything serious yet but- now i got to get my life sorted out and the whole reason i had gay o l in the first place is so i could use it when i had serious things to sort out. but i just got bleeped in the arse by rip off artists.
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31-August-2005, 08:08
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Surely if Aol tried this they would just lose customers faster than water down the plughole? I have not seen anything to this effect and anyway a lot of users are on routers! I then decided to put back my netgear router and would you believe it all connects, but to aol7 ....aol9 is frozen... it all worked fine yesterday with it only dropping the connection once! so we will see today......by the way it was accidental that I found it would connect to AOL7 i was upending my cordless keyboard and cleaning with a brush and strange noises came from the computer, when I went and looked there was a sign on screen for AOL7 calling for password, I entered and bingo it connected straight away !!! Is this really The Magic of Computing  Connected first time this morning no problems...
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31-August-2005, 08:32
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This has caused me a lot of grief too John.... Is your router a wireless jobbie or a wired one?
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31-August-2005, 08:39
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On Sat evening I shut down my pc network for it's weekly 'rest' Sunday evening when I loaded up again one of the pcs would not connect to the net, messed about with it and found the pci network card was duff! No reason, it worked the day before! I found another old card and shoved it in and away it went! Wireless, and my lappie works ok too.....if I'd stayed with Voyager no good for laptop, we will just have to see how this goes now, seems fine at the moment and will be left running all day now to see if it drops the connection at all.....
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31-August-2005, 12:55
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I wouldn't even know where to look inside for the PCi Card....I keep out of there!!.......
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31-August-2005, 12:56
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man that just sucks balls. 
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31-August-2005, 13:16
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Just wondered if you might be better off with a cheap wired router like I have, only costs £25 and works well! May well be better off....at the moment all is ok so I'll try not to rock the boat !! My computer was switched on today at 07.50am and is still up and running at 13.15pm, with no problems. This is a first for so long on the router !!!....should not have said that I know
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31-August-2005, 18:16
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well looks like my connection has now been downgraded from 1mb to 128 kbps
 all because my voyager modem is in another locked room and i am forced to use my sagem- which hardly ever disconnects like the voyager does..... aol are taking the **** with this move- and its a lie that this upgrading will make the network better... they just want everyone on routers and give BT some nice premiums on router sales.- absolute tightass ******** Last edited by FinalSolace; 31-August-2005 at 22:53.
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06-September-2005, 17:50
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well looks like my connection has now been downgraded from 1mb to 128 kbps love the pings :-p mine used to be like that online gaming hell slow and glitchy with aol my pings now are never above 30 on any games usually 12ish but aol have never been generous with the bandwidth they say 50/1 but its more like 200/1 lol @ all you mugs paying aol!!!
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06-September-2005, 23:41
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lol @ all you mugs paying aol!!!
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13-September-2005, 10:40
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After numerous disconnections from my AOL broadband internet account and after many attempts and fixes for the problem with AOL tech support and getting nowhere and more frustrated as the weeks passed by, I have finally resolved the problem myself. Having read numerous messages on the AOL bulletin boards it's clear that the 'NETWORK CABLE IS UNPLUGGED' error message is extremely common amongst the members posting there, and many members are suffering consistent interruptions to the service. I always suspected the freely supplied Voyager modem and its driver software but AOL tech support always seem to want to try anything but suggest it might be the modem and its software driver. I believe AOL have a technical problem with it that can't easily be resolved without huge cost implications which is a good reason to try and fanny around and mask the real problem. Regards, C
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13-September-2005, 17:50
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Just to re-iterate the point about the "Network Cable Unplugged" error message when using the Voyager ADSL modem. Your computer will only generate this error message if there is a connection problem between the pc and modem itself. It has nothing to do with the outgoing cable connections from the modem to your telephone point because this error message isnt generated by cable problems on the telephone side of the modem. So you can rule out filter problems or poor telecoms signals straight away. The resulting message is likely being caused by the temporary (short period of time) loss of power thru the combined USB network/power lead between pc and modem, resulting in the modem powering off, losing synch and apparently momentarily appearing disconnected as far as your pc is concerned. So dont be fobbed off by Spyware, and telephone connection issues, they have little to do with the generation of the "Network Cable Unplugged" error message.
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13-September-2005, 21:49
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this is one of the error msgs you get with aol and usb voyager105 the solution from aol tech is to untic the box that says "notify me when this connection has limited or no connectivity" and that fixes the problem or hides it i'm not sure which but untic is aol fix!!!
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22-September-2005, 14:06
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Hi guys, i have read everyones replies regarding the BT Voyager 105 ADSL Modem.
I get "a network cable is unplugged" message every 5 minutes in the morning and daytime (i RARELY get it after around 7pm til early hours of the morning) I have tried unticking the box "notify me when this connection has limited or no connectivity", unticking client for microsoft network, printer sharing, PPPoE Protocol, Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) See the odd thing is my BT Voyager recognises it as a Local Area Network device, and is labelled "Globespan USB ADSL LAN Modem" and i have called up AOL because i keep getting loss of signal or the network cable is unplugged message and they said that the driver is correct Now, i downloaded off the BT site a "newer driver" for the BT Voyager and this time it recognises it as the "BT Voyager ADSL Modem" instead of the globespan I have uninstalled the drivers given with AOL numerous times and installed the one i downloaded and when i connect to AOL i get the same message a previous bloke posted saying that my internet has been limited to 128kbps rather than the max of 512kbps but if i use the drivers given to me by aol i don't get this message except for the very annoying loss of signal or network cable is unplugged crap i have unticked the power management thing also for the globespan driver AND have done it for the USB controllers like AOL told me to do and i still get the message It looks like everyone agrees that the BT Voyager 105 modem is a load of **** and its the problem with the usb connection going from it to the pc, not anything to do with a fault in the line or filters..this is how i imagined it Fact is AOL don't give a ****, me and my sister was on the phone to them for a maximum of 3 hours last week, they speak to u for 10 minutes giving u the same bs "change filters" "plug into master phone socket" (which i have done) "it must be problem with ur pc blah blah" and they leave u on hold for so long...it's ridiculous They seem to never mention that the Voyager 105 has no faults at all, probly because it's their package they sent to u and they don't want people to think they are sending a ******** modem to u. This is more of an ending question..but does this mean i should go out and fork out on a router that doesn't use pc power or whatever has been said or should i buy a different modem from PC world or summit? Thanks, and sorry for the long post! =-)
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22-September-2005, 14:23
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Hi guys, i have read everyones replies regarding the BT Voyager 105 ADSL Modem. my only help to you all is DO NOT join aol get a decent isp (check out all isp here http://www.adslguide.org.uk/isps/compare.asp ) and save yourselves a lot of stress. If you have persistent connectivity problems you can end your AOL agreement without being penalised! I.e. dodgy modem that keeps dropping connection!
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23-September-2005, 09:30
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I have been using one since Jan 2005 and it's excellent, it logs in to Aol and supplies Aol ADSL to my 3 pc's and laptop perfectly, I just leave the routerologged on 24/7 and reboot it once every 2 or 3 weeks, so far (touch wood) it has performed faultlessly. well worth the £23! 
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07-October-2005, 15:12
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Hiya Guys
I have been through this "network cable unplugged" malarky with my non techie brother on his pc. It has been a long and winding road i can tell you. He has a bt voyager 105 usb modem connected to AOL silver . I won't go through what happens to him as i am sure by now you are all well aware of the scenario. I have some knowledge and experience and was able to take him through the various elimination stages to try and discover what the underlying cause may be. Firstly we both have the same pc and the same windows xp version. I have the old bt voyager 50 !!! yes there are some left lol, i have no problems at all with aol connection the network cable unplugged icon only ever appears randomly on start up until the signal from the modem synchs.After that i could leave the pc connected to aol for days with no trouble. His voyager 105 has been nothing but grief , but only since the network upgrade hmmm ! We spent many happy hours with the very helpfull AOL technical support team but to no avail. So..... i had an old thomson speedtouch 330 usb modem which i gave to him and installed . The drivers for this ARE available from aol.co.uk (make sure you visit the uk page NOT the aol.com page) for some reason the drivers arent there. Anyway eureka !! install went perfectly the internet speed is like lightning, and no connection problems. Hope this might help someone as i think you can buy this modem for about £25 and it is supported by AOL. I personally like the AOL set up , its just a pity there seems to be a problem in this area Rich
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07-October-2005, 18:00
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the internet speed is like lightning, and no connection problems. Leave when you can, or don’t if you are considering it STOP don’t make a stupid mistake!
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07-October-2005, 21:45
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Aol are renowned for appalling net speeds & this I’m sad to say will never improve. Do a comparison with any other UK ISP and they are the worst of the bunch http://www.adslguide.org.uk/isps/compare.asp
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07-October-2005, 22:10
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Aol are renowned for appalling net speeds & this I’m sad to say will never improve. Do a comparison with any other UK ISP and they are the worst of the bunch http://www.adslguide.org.uk/isps/compare.asp
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07-October-2005, 22:23
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Change the record and get a life! You are talking crap as usual! check the stats from ppl that have run speed tests. you still aol customer relations? this is my speed 512 connection with eclipse internet http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/sp...f125ec85148d3e now test your 512 connection and see if aol give more or less than the line capability also note the time thats at peak! http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp now do a comparison with all other isp's see how aol are at the bottom! am i still talkin crap? http://www.adslguide.org.uk/isps/compare.asp it is the net protocols that are the fault with aol not the modems or routers. my aol bt voyager 105 works great with my current isp as does the 100 & the bt voyager.
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07-October-2005, 23:03
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talkin crap?
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07-October-2005, 23:06
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The point i was making was that the speedtouch modem is fine WITH AOL !!! He never reads the question but always responds with the same ridiculous rantings, classic of someone who works for another ISP.
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07-October-2005, 23:21
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WHOOPS !! i will leave you guys to it then
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08-October-2005, 09:25
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I would not take any notice at all of Aoluser if I were you yorksguy, he does not even use Aol and if you look at all his postings all he ever does is keep running down Aol like some automaton or robot! AOL are the best aren’t they druid! I work for an ISP, no I’m a student doing a degree in computing & are completely hacked off with aol & don’t want other ppl to suffer the stress that I put up with for over a year Being told that it is their setup or pc & no one else has ever had a fault like this, YOU ARE A 1 OFF CASE! I tried AOL on 3 different pc in two separate locations & the problem was exactly the same. I was with AOL for over a year & constantly got messed around by them. I had a problem with aol from ver 8 (ver7 works with not faults with the voyager ADSL modems) I have tried the bt voyager modem, 100 & 105 with aol 8 & 9 but the fault remains with aol 9 it got severely worse & all aol told me was that it was bt, my pc, too far away from mail telephone socket, (2 meters) firewall, antivirus or background programs that was the problem, basically everything but incompatibilities with aol & windows that they still have to resolve but do not care as even though they are fully aware of the fault they still do the same old s*it problem solving. My system would stop at the saving your settings screen damaging the CPU every time I tried to shut down after a modem lock up as i had no choice but to turn the pc off at the plug. The fix on AOL 8 was uninstalling the adapter (basically delete the internet settings) clear your cache, temp folder & delete your cookies, WOW amazing that’ll fix an incompatibility! With AOL 9 it is the same but wait it’s a flashy automated version repair my AOL aren’t they tiring hard to fix the fault! If you have persistent connectivity problems you can end your AOL agreement without being penalised! I.e. dodgy modem that keeps dropping connection! test the speed of your isp http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp now do a comparison with all other isp's see how aol are at the bottom! am i still talkin crap? http://www.adslguide.org.uk/isps/compare.asp it is the net protocols that are the fault with aol not the modems or routers. my aol bt voyager 105 works great with my current isp as does the 100 & the bt voyager. The forums would differ to AOL’s response wouldn’t you say Druid. As your name suggests you need to honour life & learn from archaic traditions, Let him magnify Truth, it will magnify him, get back on your customer care line & tell ppl the truth!!!!.. a link just for you druid maybe it'll change your religion http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/main.html Last edited by aoluser; 08-October-2005 at 09:47. Reason: dead links
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08-October-2005, 13:51
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hi aoluser,
i've been reading the exchanges between you and druid for some time now and often wondered about your reasons for being so anti-aol. i must admit to having similar sentiments about BT as an ISP. the problem with your pc locking up does seem unusual.....just so ive got it right.......your pc locked up during the Windows closing down phase when you were switching off and it was saving your settings.....is that correct? presumably the problem being caused by some glitch in aol 8 software. ive been with aol for about 3 years now, originally on dial up for 2 years and think i was using aol 7 on a windows 98 pc, also used it on a laptop running windows 2000 and didnt have any such problems. when aol 8 was released i read in various places that it contained a lot of bugs and had caused pc's to crash, so i never did upgrade to aol 8. i only moved to aol 9 about a year ago when i upgraded to broadband and ive been running that on the same pc with windows 98...no problems atall....also running aol 9 on 2 other machines....a laptop and pc both with XP.....and again absolutely no problems with running the aol software on any of my 3 machines which are now networked thru a netgear router. the only problems ive experienced have been caused by the useless voyager 105 usb modem or its been a BT fault, aol technical support always try to help but like most things in life...its the luck of the draw....some techies are good and some are useless. what was the spec of the pc and operating system you had all the problems with? glad you have found an ISP you are now happy with.....ive tried a few and im reasonably happy with aol at the moment.....normally i access the internet thru iexplorer because i dislike the aol software interface but believe it or not.....just recently ive found myself using the aol software to access their music section for copying cd quality music and karaoke music tracks for use in my own music recordings. this service is excellent. my kids also use the internet alot and ive found the aol parental control interface another excellent tool provided by the aol software. i think its useful that we point out the problems we have all experienced with poor ISP services.....but its equally important to praise the positive aspects too......they are ALL good and bad in various ways. all the best, c Last edited by cyberspacecowboy; 08-October-2005 at 14:31.
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11-October-2005, 22:04
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Thanks for use info all, tonight i went rd a m8's to sort aol out, he was getting the network un-plugged and getting dropped every few minuts.
I tried everything tonight changing setting's and re-installing, i came away a bit WTF as the modem when connected was reporting a 2mb line, when he's on 1mb and the area we live can only handle 1 mb, but did notice when i re-installed as i did the modem first that is seemed to sort its self out till i put aol 9 on and it was back to square 1, i nearlly set the connection not to use aol as its shite anyway and i got most my friends that use aol just dial direct now. Thing is he only had this problem a month with it running ok before, so some changes must have happend somewhere for this problem to arise. The aol global drivers seem crap also - and maybe half the problem Anyway thanks for the help, i should get it running 2morrow and allready told him to replace the modem or Aol.
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12-October-2005, 09:49
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just recently ive found myself using the aol software to access their music section for copying cd quality music and karaoke music tracks for use in my own music recordings. this service is excellent. my kids also use the internet alot and ive found the aol parental control interface another excellent tool provided by the aol software.
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12-October-2005, 09:53
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Thanks for use info all, tonight i went rd a m8's to sort aol out, he was getting the network un-plugged and getting dropped every few minuts. IMHO it's worth getting a router (even if you only have one PC) you can get a cheapie from ebuyer for £25, and they are a cinch to install, with both of the ones I used I did not need to install anything not even drivers, it was simply a job of plugging it in and entering my Aol screen name and password and you are on line, you don't need any Aol software or anything. I keep the 105 modem as a spare.
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