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Old 26-July-2005, 16:46
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WHAT to the Eczemapustulation Pizza scoobs

You cant move a thread like that - It confuses peeps

How about a compromise - keep half the thread here and half in the Extrapeperoni Pizza?

I have a genuine complaint actually while we're here.

The forum isnt centred on my PC screen. Could you move the WHOLE thing to the left a little

Thx

What a load of cuffufle over nada

Entertaining stuff though.

I dont think its a "move somewhere else if you dont like it thing though scoobs"
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Old 26-July-2005, 16:48
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Yeh! Maybe to the Expustulation Plaza or to Site Discussion.

Scoobs IMHO you shouldn't threaten to pull the plug when the bathwater is only lukewarm! Maybe let the aggro heat up a little more

BTW could you give talky a "Go to Directly to Jail" card and allow me to pass "Go" twice?
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Old 26-July-2005, 16:56
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I dont think its a "move somewhere else if you dont like it thing though scoobs"
Originally Posted by talktalktalk
Well those who have posted several links and posts on the subject must be upset about a name ..LOL me im just heading for 3k in posts and this thread is just the one i need to move me up

Maybe we should move the GC to the EP and do away with GC then poop will hit the fan ..LOL

Scoobs IMHO you shouldn't threaten to pull the plug when the bathwater is only lukewarm! Maybe let the aggro heat up a little more
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Whos pulling the plug, just saying it as it is if your really that upset at a name.
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:01
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Are you really that interested in achieving 3000 posts Scoobs?

RSVP to hit the 2928 count

Will you buy us a round of virtual drinks to celebrate?
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:07
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Scoobs, as you seem to be answering for the no vote, howzabout laying of the name argument for a bit, and more on the points I made, or would that mean we were having an 'actual' discussion about its merits or not rather than the game of ping pong by talky who seems to be trying to sabotage the argument cos he hasn't one of his own worth the name @ttt
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:11
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Me discuss dont be silly. another one to my 3k

I cant see anything to discuss other forums have more than one area to chat i bet they dont have members moaning about it.

Most posts start in the GC if they get heavy it will be moved, the thread about the lack of food in africa has stayed in GC as it has died if it was on going and getting deep i guess it would be moved.
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Are you really that interested in achieving 3000 posts Scoobs?

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No but was a good excuse to keep posting nothings
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:12
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talky who seems to be trying to sabotage the argument cos he hasn't one of his own worth the name
Argument? Argument?

Someone say argument

Oh well then.......thats different then.

M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
M: No, I haven't, this is my first time.
R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
M: Well, what is the cost?
R: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.
R: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.
Pause
R: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory.
Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
M: Thank you.

(Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!
Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.
(Under his breath) Stupid git!!

(Walk down the corridor)
M: (Knock)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven't.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't
A: I did!
M: You didn't!
A: I'm telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't.
A: Did.
M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.
A: Yes it is.
M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
A: No it isn't.
M: It is!
A: It is not.
M: Look, you just contradicted me.
A: I did not.
M: Oh you did!!
A: No, no, no.
M: You did just then.
A: Nonsense!
M: Oh, this is futile!
A: No it isn't.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!

A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
M: Now look.
A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
M: What?
A: That's it. Good morning.
M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I'm afraid it was.
M: It wasn't.
Pause
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
A: (Hums)
M: Look, this is ridiculous.
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
M: Oh, all right.
(pays money)
A: Thank you.
short pause
M: Well?
A: Well what?
M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
M: I just paid!
A: No you didn't.
M: I DID!
A: No you didn't.
M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.
A: Well, you didn't pay.
M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
A: No you haven't.
M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
M: Oh I've had enough of this.
A: No you haven't.
M: Oh Shut up.

(Walks down the stairs. Opens door.)

M: I want to complain.
C: You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through.
M: No, I want to complain about...
C: If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
M: Oh!
C: Oh my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office.


(Slams door. walks down corridor, opens next door.)

M: Hello, I want to... Ooooh!
H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go Waaah. Try it again.
M: uuuwwhh!!
H: Better, Better, but Waah, Waah! Put your hand there.
M: No.
H: Now..
M: Waaaaah!!!
H: Good, Good! That's it.
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: What?
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: Stop hitting you?
M: Yes!
H: Why did you come in here then?
M: I wanted to complain.
H: Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.
M: What a stupid concept.


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Amazing
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:13
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Anyway the No's are in the lead
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:14
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Whoooooooooooooooooo Hooooooooooooo

Go NO Go NO GO GO GO!

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Old 26-July-2005, 17:19
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I cant see anything to discuss...................
Originally Posted by Scoobs
Try reading my posts

On second thoughts, don't,

I'd hate to turn this place into a discussion forum, it might upset some of the inmates

I'll pop into see you lot on the next visiting day,


and talky, keep taking the medication
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:21
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Oi deezel - remember our mentor Squidgie who told us to criticise the post and not the poster?

Not much point though when the talky's posts are the constituency of straw. It's worst than tilting at windmills.

Seriously though the main difficulty in having Expustulation Plaza and General Chatty is that there are just insufficient regular posters and contributions to justify the existence of EP.

Furthermore when one comes to "The Scream" you might prefer "General Chatty" as it was and take a decision whether you wanted to read a joke or happy birthday thread or look at something a little more serious.

One is never sure how a thread is likely to develop.

Why doesn't the reverse rule apply and serious threads that change to jolly ones are transferred from EP to General Chatty? That might cause offence to serious minded posters!!!
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Dont forget the grapes and flowers
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:23
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No but was a good excuse to keep posting nothings
Originally Posted by Scoobs
What's the difference between posting nothings and posting a pointless ramble like what talky does?

Edit ...but sometimes a pointless ramble can be funny. OTH if it leads to a flaming argument then it can get a thread moved from General Chatty to Expustulation Plaza

Last edited by Worldlife; 26-July-2005 at 17:28. Reason: Talky's ramble is quite funny when you take the time to read it
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:26
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And some good magazines please.

FHM will do nicely - matron isnt much to look at

I'd hate to turn this place into a discussion forum
It is one IMO - but come on - is this REALLY worth discussing

But carry on if it means THAT much to you

EDIT

pointless ramble
Its ironic posting Worldlife - this WHOLE thread is pointless rambling IMO

Entertaining though.
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:31
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Maybe we should rename General Chatty "Pointless Rambles"
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Maybe we should rename General Chatty "Pointless Rambles"
Or maybe just your posts
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:36
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Oi deezel - remember our mentor Squidgie who told us to criticise the post and not the poster?

Not much point though when the talky's posts are the constituency of straw. It's worst than tilting at windmills.

Seriously though the main difficulty in having Expustulation Plaza and General Chatty is that there are just insufficient regular posters and contributions to justify the existence of EP.

Furthermore when one comes to "The Scream" you might prefer "General Chatty" as it was and take a decision whether you wanted to read a joke or happy birthday thread or look at something a little more serious.

One is never sure how a thread is likely to develop.

Why doesn't the reverse rule apply and serious threads that change to jolly ones are transferred from EP to General Chatty? That might cause offence to serious minded posters!!!
Originally Posted by Worldlife
Thanks for making all my points above again WL.

Unfortunately, you are the only one who seems to understand logic ( at least on this occasion anyways )

Anyways, if the 'team' keep the EX PL despite the overwhelming logical evidence provided by me and WL, sobeit, it will only go to prove one thing.

...that we were right and you lot wrong, but you ain't men or ladies enough to admit it.

I think talky has wriggled out of his jacket, the 'python' vault has been broken into again
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Old 26-July-2005, 17:43
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Or maybe just your posts
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@ talky

At least I have a compass for my ramblings and have a sense of direction
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Old 26-July-2005, 18:48
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we have 4 pages of nothing
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At least I have a compass for my ramblings and have a sense of direction
Yeah due north straight up your own gibralter strait
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Old 26-July-2005, 23:55
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Yeah due north straight up your own gibralter strait
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Well at least I get some things straight

Take care if you decide to go in the opposite direction - you could end up with a bent Pole.
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Old 27-July-2005, 17:24
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we have 4 pages of nothing
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..erm 12 posts with nothing to commend them maybe ( thats your stuff btw )

Truth is there were some very good points made for the amalgamation of the two forums, its just that it didn't suit the 'teams' agenda so they have been ignored, not a particularly good way to treat your members/posters if I might say and certainly not very enlightened in these days of PC.
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As i said in the other thread if you had done it in an adult way it may have got looked at.

So far ive only seen 4 people say they dont like it.

But the minority don’t make the majority.
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We have been told that serious threads get moved to the EX Plaza, so how come the smoking thread which I have just brought to the fore was left in GC?


Now that is a serious thread

.....very inconsistent imo

My point is that if the 'team' want to kill a thread or they dont like, they move it to the 'coffin' forum.( expostulation plaza)

As Rigger says here it just another sort of censorship.

Ok, fine move the thread if you dont like it, but isn't hiding behind false reasons a bit weasly?

We all know its not a democracy here, but don't insult us

All this serious business is just a smokescreeen.
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Guess you are waiting for you tea to cook

Not democratic here, but you are missing the point you set up the poll it hasnt been deleted BUT so far it still says NO.

Or have you forgot that bit ?

Its hardly censorship moving a thread just because you and a few others do not like the name.

The tobaco thread might have been moved if it had carried on but seeing as most of the post where light it didnt get moved.
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As i said in the other thread if you had done it in an adult way it may have got looked at.

So far ive only seen 4 people say they dont like it.

But the minority don’t make the majority.
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Listen you can't claim credit for....what, 11 no votes now but only two posting against and then deny us our 8 votes saying only 4 people say they dont like it.

Seems very strange 11 vote but only two post.

As for the 'adult way' I posted a poll, nothing more adult than that.

WL and I also posted good arguments; since its been only you really to respond and the main response (self-admitted) was to increase your post count you can hardly claim the 'adult' argument.

It would have been adult for the 'team' to answer those valid points which were raised instead of skulking
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Old 27-July-2005, 18:00
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Guess you are waiting for you tea to cook

Not democratic here, but you are missing the point you set up the poll it hasnt been deleted BUT so far it still says NO.

Or have you forgot that bit ?

Its hardly censorship moving a thread just because you and a few others do not like the name.

The tobaco thread might have been moved if it had carried on but seeing as most of the post where light it didnt get moved.
Originally Posted by Scoobs

Now I know you don't read my threads. I have repeatedly said its not really the name ( rubbish though it is) that this is about.

I make the point continually, have done again in these latest posts that its the splitting of the forums that I object to and the removal of the thread is a sort of censorship.

If 'serious' were the criteria then posts mentioned would have been moved.

Its a team dumping ground for posts they dont want on GC

You know it, I know it, WL knows it, so why the smoke screen?

Give us 'yes' voters some credit
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Old 27-July-2005, 18:10
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please note, all the 'staff' here are volenteers.
We cannot guarantee that someone is here at all times.
We can also not guarantee the posts / threads wont get missed.
The quickest way to get something looked at is via the 'report post' function under every post.

On a personal note, I'll move or delete threads that I find are not suitable for the forum, I believe that I'll move or delete a thread because of it's contents not because of any predudice against an author or subject. I personally dont belive that any of the team members would otherwise operate differently.

Basically nothing is going to change. If a visitor / user is not happy with what we try to accomplish here, please feel free to comment or leave. To continue creating new threads on the same subject and continuing those threads as long as possible wont accomplish anything.

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What ever rant away ive better things todo than keep posting in this thread like eat.

Insulting us isnt going to get you anywhere.
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