The Premium Rates Old Boys Group

[Hamlet]

Let's analyse the PRS Old Boys Group.

I will do the Krauts, you do the Tommies, ok?
I will not comment anything, I do just post what I know

http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/BodoMSprungk

Bodo M S* was one of the owners of German Phone Sex Giant "Solidus", now (people from Solidus are) trading (and collecting complaints) as "Vision Communication GmbH" --> Richard D*, another PRS Old Boy.

Bodo was said to be living in Southern France, close to Bertrand (F*?)
Bodo and his wife Uli had a dog called Joey (and Bertrand was mentioned there)
http://www.gunsights.de/pg_litters/p...er_a/d_asp.htm

Bodo attended the "Eurowebtainment", a PRS/porn fair

Solidus Media Software GmbH, D-Düsseldorf TH* Daniel
Solidus Media Software GmbH, D-Düsseldorf SPR* Bodo
(eurowebtainment.com)

Both, Th* and Spr*, have been owners of "Solidus".

MM: Gesellschafter / Eigentümer: Sprungk, Bodo Matthias Gesellschafter Schenefelder Landstr. 185 22589 Hamburg EUR 12500,- Thomas, Daniel Jonathan Gesellschafter Wülfrather Str. 26 40233 Düsseldorf EUR 12500,- Management: Dean, Richard Frank Geschäftsführer (*****) *****. 44 ***** *******

(source: Company Register)

They have been visited a Hamburg Sex Webmaster Fair before for TMS (Teli Media Solutions)

TMS Boss, Christian
TMS GmbH Dean, Richard
TMS GmbH Ditzel, Georg
TMS GmbH Heim, Markus
TMS GmbH Sprungk, Bodo M.
TMS GmbH Thomas, Danny

(awm-event.de)

0190 805912 Talkline - Teli Media Solutions GmbH, Hamburg - BuzzMe
0190 805914 Talkline - Teli Media Solutions GmbH, Hamburg - BuzzMe
0190 807995 Talkline - Teli Media Solutions GmbH, Hamburg - BuzzMe
0190 807996 Talkline - Teli Media Solutions GmbH, Hamburg - BuzzMe

Originally Posted by German PRN used for the 2005 scams

Company Secretary [of Buzzme]
NEWHAVEN LIMITED
Company Director
TIMOTHY JOHN AS*
BUZZMESOLUTIONS.CO.UK LIMITED
APPLE JACK MEDIA LIMITED
MMM MEDIA LIMITED

NIGEL JEREMY T*
APPLE JACK MEDIA LIMITED
MMM MEDIA LIMITED


Newhaven?

Haldanes Solicitors London Office
Fergus Anstock

Fergus obtained an Honours Degree in Jurisprudence from Pembroke College Oxford in 1976 and qualified as a solicitor in England and Wales in 1979 and in Hong Kong in 1980. Fergus had experience as a solicitor in private practice in Hong Kong between 1980 and 1982 and he then joined the Bank of East Asia Hong Kong Limited in Hong Kong as its Senior Legal Officer being promoted to Group Legal Adviser in 1987. Fergus was also the Managing Director of Bank of East Asia Trustees Limited, a Director of Transatlantic Trust Company Limited and a director of various other subsidiaries of Bank of East Asia Limited. He was also a Member of the Hong Kong Law Reform Commission.
In addition to his role as Senior Commercial Partner of Haldanes, Fergus is also the Chief Executive of the Newhaven Group

PacifiCorp Funding Partners Trust
c/o The Newhaven Group
40 Gerard Street
London, England W1V 7 LP
Attention: Fergus Anstock, Esq.

Anstock, Fergus info@freemob.tv
3rd Floor, Omar Hodge Building
Wickhams Cay 1, PO Box 362
Road Town, Tortola

Ok, let's get back to Bodo,...

According to his TMN-page Bodo is running BBC, which is:
http://theearthcollection.com/Contacts%20Total.htm
(scroll down)

Among his friends you can find Craig G* (Sky Telemedia)


In his TMN profile Bodo gives www.pokertisch.com as his webpage, though it is NOT his webpage...

whois says:
http://www.whois.ws/whois-com/ip-add...okertisch.com/

GUTV
PO Box 4047
london, Yukon Territory 6PZ
Zimbabwe
ad**(at)skytelemedia.xxxxx

If you leave the rubbish away you get "Box 4047", London

-->

There you find Babestation
http://www.lyngsat-address.com/ab/Babestation.html

whois?
sky telemedia uk ltd
11-13 soho street
london
W1D 3DJ


sumo.tv
whois?
http://www.whois.ws/whois-tv/sumo.tv/

adam(at)skytelemedia =
Ad** Clark

Adam Clark, Head of Online, Cellcast

Sky Telemedia's Hong Kong address was

Hong Kong: Frank Cheung
Sky Telemedia
Sky Telemedia Ltd.,
3/F., Chung Nam Building,
1 Lockhart Road

see:

E-LUX (Hong Kong) Limited Company
Florence Chan
3/F., Chung Nam Building, - 1 Lockhart Road, Wan Chai,
Hong Kong,
HK

Frank Chi Fai Ch* was (together with Bertrand F*) director of the danish "Mother of Phone Sex Companies" (IBC) (from there you can easily find the way to Teli Media Solution --> Sprungk again)

Mr Richard D* started his PR rate career in Hamburg at IBC Germany. I don't know if Bodo M Spr* was involved from the beginning...


Frank Chi Fai Ch* and Berrand F* started (together with Mr Andrew W*, also one of the Old Boys)
(Andrew W* --> Cellcast UK
Director Jean Michel Al* [One World --> Marco Pr*, former head of German voluntarily regulation] Director Craig G* Director Andrew Reginald Karl W* Director Philippe B* ) at "VISL" (formerly Cable & Wireless Hong Kong --> APT --> see: OPTUS vs APT).

Bertrand Folliet, CEO
Bertrand was formally the Chief Operating Officer of Jasdaq-listed e-Lux Corporation's key operating subsidiary in Hong Kong. Prior to that he was an executive director of the publicly listed Hong Kong company e-New Media. He was also Managing Director of e-New Media subsidiary New Media Corporation and Director of Operations of that company's predecessor, VISL, from August 1994 until December 1997. From April 1994 to August 1994, Bertrand was Senior Vice President of Matra-Hachette Multimedia On-line.

Andrew Wilson, Director of Business Development
Andrew most recently served as a director of the Tokyo based Jasdaq-listed e-Lux Corporation, prior to which he was an executive director of the publicly listed Hong Kong Company e-New Media. From 1989 to 1992, he was Joint Managing Director of Marketing Solutions, a subsidiary of DDB Needham. From November 1993 to July 1995, he was a director of the international telemedia services provider, VISL. Andrew is a founding member of the International Telemedia Association and a frequent speaker at industry conferences.

VISL started a billing concept called "dialer"

Hong Kong - Gross revenues processed by the NetCharger Internet billing and micropayments solution, operated by e-New Media Co Limited (stock code: HK0128), grew by 258% in the second half of 1999, as compared to the first half of the year. Gross revenues were US $8.12 million.

e-New Media's proprietary international NetCharger solution offers an alternative payment method to dial-up Internet users by allowing them to 'charge' products and services to their local telephone bills.

The company said today it has completed the proof of concept phase after working with a group of entertainment and information services, and will be aggressively marketing NetCharger to content providers and e-commerce services in the coming months.

"In addition to our billing and micropayments solutions for dial-up Internet users, billing solutions for content providers in the broadband environment are being developed by our research team in Hong Kong and California," added Carl Gunell.

Carl Gunell, an Old Boy, too

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Mr Mike N* was on the board of Cellcast Group

Mike Neville
Non-executive Director
Michael Neville has extensive experience in capital markets and is a director of a number of public and private companies. He is currently chairman of Felix Group plc, World Television Group plc and Minmet plc, all AIM companies. His background is in the telecommunications, technology and media arena, where he has worked for the last 17 years specialising in strategy, mergers and acquisitions, and turn around situations. He has worked for companies such as Cable & Wireless, United Utilities, Ozemail Interline Pty and OnCue Telecommunications Limited, where he has been involved in large and small scale fund raisings as well as numerous merger and acquisitions transactions in various parts of the world.

Felix Group did run "Everyone's a winner", using a PO Box in Great Dunmow (via TLC Marketing)

The same postbox was used by crooks that did trick (hundreds of?) thousands of Germans in 2005 ("you have won... dial..."). The German PR numbers used have been used by companies, among them you could find (several) companies (more or less) directly related to people mentioned within that posting.

The German companies said, a UK company was responsible: Buzzme Solutions, address: 40 gerrard. you know that...
The UK company said, a BVI company was responsible. You know that...
http://www.160characters.org/news.ph...=view&nid=1118

Mr Kidd added: "The UK has a large and innovative premium rate industry used by broadcasters, charities, mobile content providers and others. This sort of action not only harms the consumer, but also the premium rate industry itself. We will continue to act to prevent this sort of activity and punish those responsible."

No. No. No comment...

The director of buzzme had another company, together with Mr Nigel T* - the former CEO of "One World Interactive"
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...9/ai_113062523
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_n19942682

One World --> Jean Al* -->Marco Pr*
I guess Marco Pr* will be my next Kraut
http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/MarcoPriewe but... ooops... he is not one of the "Old Boys". Lucky Marco.

(slightly edited)

[Hamlet]

if the old boys are reading here:
SHUT DOWN THE OLD BOYS GROUP
to be continued. Now it's time for a TOMMY, isn't it?

El Gringo, Mike, come on, your go!
what about Mr Neil P*?

Or Mr H*t?
http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/AndersHolst

HOLST, ANDERS DIRECTOR
2/F TAI TEI TONG
MUI WO
LANTAU ISLAND
HONG KONG Appointed: 27/10/1997
Resigned: 30/10/1998
Nationality: DANISH
Date of Birth: 06/07/1964
Company Appointments: 1

S**, M** DIRECTOR
43 CTRA DE ANDRAXT
PORTALS NOUS
MALLORCA
07181 Appointed: 27/10/1997
Resigned: 30/10/1998

Originally Posted by companieshouse

kind regards
Hamlet

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http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...-psychics.html

A television programme that charges viewers for advice from so-called psychics is today exposed by a Mail on Sunday investigation as a cynical sham which is operating in apparent breach of broadcasting guidelines.

Psychic Interactive, which can be seen by millions of Sky TV subscribers, encourages people to consult its psychics on premium-rate phone lines, charging up to £1.70 a minute.
(...)
The company behind Psychic Interactive is Cellcast plc, whose management team made £2. million last month when they floated on the stock market one fifth of their stake, or ten per cent of Cellcast's total value.

Its directors are all university educated and hold similar positions with other companies in the media and telecoms sectors.
Cellcast was founded by Andrew Wilson, 44, who is the chief executive, and Frenchman Dr Bertrand Folliet, 39, the chief operating officer.

They didn't know the whole truth...

The company produces a host of interactive programmes, including Grab A Grand, Text2Date and Reverse Auction, during which viewers make calls or send text messages using premium rate numbers to communicate with the presenter and participants.

Asked about Psychic Interactive last night, Mr Wilson said: 'I have nothing to do with bringing out that particular programme. I am comfortable with it as long as the show is compliant.'

Pilate is washing his hands.


Grab-a-grand
-->
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=304898
"'Grab a Grand' (You TV2) using actors to phone up?"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=359151&page=3

[El Gringo]

Registered No.: 03396559

Name: TELECOM ONE LIMITED

Address: 130 CITY ROAD
LONDON
EC1V 2NW
.............................
HOLST, ANDERS DIRECTOR

MUI WO
LANTAU ISLAND
HONG KONG

Appointed: 27/10/1997
Resigned: 30/10/1998

Nationality: DANISH
Date of Birth: 06/07/1964

Company Appointments: 1

.................................
HOLST, ANDERS DIRECTOR

ST ALBANS
HERTFORDSHIRE
AL3 5TF

Appointed: 12/12/2000

Nationality: DANISH
Date of Birth: 06/07/1964
Company Appointments: 2

and yes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4397308.stm
not one single police investigation into 'The Old Boys' business activities.

[Hamlet]

Telecom One once had a legal dispute with German "Deutsche Telekom". Mr N* has been so proud to win the dispute...

Take a look, interesting stuff
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/o30903.pdf

Mr Naughton states that Telecom One trade marks were being used several months before the establishment of TOL by an affiliated Hong Kong company called Telecom One Limited. The Hong Kong company has operated since May 1997 in the same market sector as TOL. (...)
25) There is documentation from a large number of undertakings, eg BT, Nokia and VISL, all emanating from before any of the relevant dates.

Telecom One Limited
Suite 1803, CLI Building
313 - 317 Hennessy Road
Wanchai, Hong Kong
http://www.telecom1.com.hk/index.html

"Telecom 1 for kids"
http://www.telecom1.com.hk/magic.htm

"Telecom 1 for adults" could have been found elsewhere
Ask Mr P*

Michael Pavlou joined Telecom One as Technical Director in April 2000. Formerly with MCI Worldcom, Cable & Wireless and General Cable, Michael has extensive knowledge of local, national and international networks within the telecommunications arena. Michael has responsibility for all the technical requirements of Telecom One and for the development of a long-term technical strategy.

inetnum: 217.145.76.0 - 217.145.76.255
netname: PROCLAIM-TELECOM
admin-c: MP16176-RIPE
tech-c: DW4777-RIPE
mnt-by: TELECOMONE-MNT
person: Michael Pavlou

nslite.cab - lovely



The address above is from ECS (Cable&Wireless based management) who bought T1 HK in 2000[???]
http://www.ecs.com.hk/tele1_main.htm

The old address was

Telecom One Limited
7/F Golden Star Building
20-24 Lockhart Road
Wanchai, Hong Kong

In 1999 the website said

Web design by Phang & Naughton tel + 852 2527 1127

Phang & Naughton Marketing Services Limited
15/F, Golden Star Building,
20-24, Lockhart Road, Wan Chai,
Hong Kong

Phang are J* and I* Leun. Who is N*? I don't know, I don't care


But who was Anders H*?
This one?

Danish Business Association
Royal Danish Consulate
2402B Great Eagle Centre
23 Harbour Road, Wanchai
Hong Kong
Contact Anders Holst for more information by e-mail
- Association for Danish businesses and businesspeople in Hong Kong.

In April 2000, Anders Holst relocated from the company's Hong Kong office to London where his main responsibilities are regulatory issues, carrier relations and PR activities. Anders is also involved in the commercial side of developing Telecom One's new products, with the emphasis on net-based telecoms and SMS services.

edited


Here is another interesting Old Boy, invited by Skytelemedia-Craig:

After graduating from the University of New Mexico on an athletics scholarship, Steve Sladovnik joined E. & J. Gallo, where he was top district representative in his first year. After Gallo, Steve launched his own consumer marketing company and in 1993 he established VISL's call center in Santiago, Chile with infrastructure supplied by Carl Gunell€™s ITS. He has managed the Company's evolution in Latin America from voice service bureau to the continent's leading mobile content organization, negotiating Telemedia€™s agreements with content owners and publishers, secured connectivity and billing with operators, and partnered with media brands throughout the region. Steve has overall responsibility for Telemedia's relationships with its clients.

Gunells ITS. Thanx.

[Hamlet]

and yes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4397308.stm
not one single police investigation into 'The Old Boys' business activities.

Originally Posted by El Gringo

No police investigation?
sure?


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Stay tuned!
Still to come...

"Marco P - self regulation or: The Golden Pharisees of the PR Business"
"Was Germany ever shut down?" - about "tunnel diallers" and German dialler giants
"The Russian Business Network of PRS" or: "реселлер means reseller"
"From Gilsan to Mallorca" - The involvement of the big carriers
"International diallers" - why BT and DT kept silent or: Who lost money with MCI? Ask Luke Ford!
"Caribbean Pirates" or: "The numerous options of going offshore by Urs Haui-stein"
"The Crosskirk/Greenock case: Why did the high tech crime unit never investigate? Or did they?"
"The making of regulation" - interesting words from ITA/NOC/AIME meetings
"Crooks and Lobby" - a 1:1-comparison of the ITA/NOC/AIME-members list and the ICSTIS/PP+ adjudication list or: "No Fine No Old Boy"
"What the PR industry could learn from NY mobsters" - Yishai: Profit Plantation, Panama Procla(i)mations and pp
"CoolWebSearch - High Profit Hijacking or: The Peter Principle of Traffi-shing
"Whatever happended to Dialer-Pam" - Varadox, Niteline, Telcoweb or: Adam & Eve of destruction.
"The yellow fever" - The role of Hong Kong men & women
"30 markets worldwide and 25 years of combines experience" - what you can learn from promotional texts
"Hamburg and the 'Danish Deal'": Why could a multi-million-euro-crook leave Germany as a free man? or: The blackheads of dialler fraud
"Osnabrueck, Germany - 'Grab your cash and run, there's that f*ing Kraut' or: There's a killah on the road"
"Viva Mallorca" - How the Spanish Network was installed - or: Diallers building homes in the sun.

Contributions from the "Old Boys" are welcome

[Hamlet]

Hey, who is there?
http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/Yacine

Electronic Group aka E-group aka Nocreditcard aka whatever
I can't believe my eyes
http://whois-search.ru/nserver/all/a...egwn.net..html

The "French Connection" strikes again
http://www.spywareguide.com/creator_show.php?id=22

where are the Hannover guys? I hope I will not forget to tell a story about the E-Group

e-group Germany GmbH
Odeonstr.
Hannover
HR-Nummer: HRB 58243
Gr.-Datum: 1999

Alexander R* ist nicht mehr Geschäftsführer. Gerard Philippe Sp***, geboren am 5. Juli 1958, Castelldelfels/Spanien, ist zum Geschäftsführer bestellt.

Good old times...
http://www.e-vostok.ru/i/logo.png

Bad old times...
301 Electronic Group Interactive, S.L. Ha*** Cha** Barcelona

Very bad old times:
GREENOCK SL

ADMINISTRADOR UNICO K*** ROBERT LEE 01/08/2002
EX-ADMINISTRADOR UNICO TH*** HANS FREIHERR VON ROTENHAN 01/08/2002
EX-APODERADO CHA** AB*** HA*** 13/11/2003


very very very old times...

Intelligente Netze (IN)
Servicerufnummern im Festnetz
Markt, Technik, Dienste, Vermarktung
von Ab** Ha** Ch**

Originally Posted by TU Ilmenau (Univertsity of Ilmenau/Germany) 1999

(Intelligent Networks. Service numbers for landline. Market, Technology, Services, Marketing. By Ab** Ha** Ch**)

The German university student later was with E-Group and with Greenock SL. What a career! Other German students crash into the WTC, so it could have been worse...

But!


Does George Kidd remember Greenock SL?

Taking action under recently implemented European ecommerce regulations, ICSTIS fined Greenock £75,000 and dished out a £50,000 slap to Premium Call GmbH.
It has also barred access to both services for two years and both operators have also been reported to the National Hi-Tech Crime Unit.

and the National Hi-Tech Crime Unit is not able to check the spanish company register?

Robert K*** (EBS)

Originally Posted by ITA-website, SIG-1, meeting notes 24/06/2002

It is hard to believe that the High-Tech Crime Unit could not find him...

But. What a surprise...
In February 2003 ICSTIS said

A fine of £75,000 was imposed against Greenock. A fine of £50,000 was imposed against Premium Call GmbH. The services were barred for 2 years. The service providers were instructed to offer redress. I am currently investigating the service providers again, for not offering any compensation to complainants. ICSTIS received 282 complaints against Greenock and 173 complaints against Premium Call.

[Hamlet]

a new member picture
http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/craiggardiner
I don't like it.

[Hamlet]

http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/AdamLewis
icharge.com
iprs.com

(REGISTRANT@IPRS.COM)
IPRS Ltd
Mitchel House
The Valley The Valley ANG042 AI


http://www.whois.ws/whois-com/ip-address/icharge.com/
who is the owner of the spanish phone number?

http://www.whois.ws/whois-com/ip-address/mfusion.com/
http://www.whois.ws/whois-net/ip-address/netbauds.net/
http://www.whois.ws/whois-com/ip-address/mfind.com/

http://www.whois.ws/whois-com/ip-address/telcoweb.com/

http://www.pornojunkies.com/archive/...hp/t-9902.html

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...ad.php?t=29869
(Shouldn't ****** D* be invited to the PROBG?)

FTC

The Secretariat supplied information to the FTC, when they were investigating BTV industries an information provider of Telepay Ltd. The information supplied related to sites where Telepay operated, our contacts within Telepay and BTV industries and basic information regarding the UK networks used by the companies. The FTC were referred to
ICSTIS by the OFT.

The FTC expressed some interest in receiving information from ICSTIS when we investigated misleading services that might also affect American consumers might be affected and information was forwarded to the FTC regarding Trodat Telecom and a service they operated which dialled without authorisation.

Originally Posted by ICSTIS 2003, same document as above

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/02/playstation2.shtm


This one's quite easy
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/s...6&postcount=10
and so we are done with another Old Boy, too
http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/KeithAGoodyer

[mike99]

Alan Scott

Is a manager of 2CommLtd

Who the regulator that likes to say "yes" to premium rate crime has nevertheless adjudicated against a number of times:

13 May 2008
Content and/or promotion provided by 2 Comm Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Tanla Mobile Ltd
Service provider location Glasgow | London
Telephone network(s) All mobile networks
Service type Mobile content download
Cost £4.50 weekly subscription
Number of complaints 169
Source of complaint Public
Fine £8000
Sanction A formal reprimand; a £8000 fine; and The information provider is to seek and implement compliance advice

13 May 2008
Content and/or promotion provided by 2 Comm Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Zamano Ltd
Service provider location Glasgow | London
Telephone network(s) All mobile networks
Service type Mobile content download
Number of complaints 31
Source of complaint Public
Fine £8000
Sanction A formal reprimand; a £8000 fine; and The information provider is to seek and implement compliance advice

23 Jan 2008
Content and/or promotion provided by 2 Comm Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Tanla Mobile Ltd
Service provider location London
Telephone network(s) All mobile networks
Service type Mobile subscription
Cost £4.50 per week
Number of complaints 43
Source of complaint Consumers
Fine £2000
Sanction A formal reprimand;

20 Dec 2007
Content and/or promotion provided by Dialogue Communications Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice 2 Comm Ltd
Service provider location Sheffield
Telephone network(s) Mobile operators
Service type Mobile Content
Cost £1.50 per message x 6
Number of complaints 11
Source of complaint Public
Fine £5000
Sanction Formal reprimand

11 Jun 2007
Content and/or promotion provided by 2Comm Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Tanla Mobile Ltd
Service provider location London
Telephone network(s) All mobile networks
Service type SMS text message & WAP push
Cost 81404 - £1.50 per reverse-billed SMS (x6)
Number of complaints 39
Source of complaint Public
Complaint from Nationwide
Fine £1500
Sanction 6-month bar on service or until compliant (whichever is longer)
Formal reprimand
Refund all complainants who used the service
(Case Ref: 701245)

11 Jun 2007
Content and/or promotion provided by 2Comm Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Wireless Information Network Ltd (WIN)
Service provider location High Wycombe
Telephone network(s) All mobile networks
Service type Chat
Cost 82099 & 84243 - £1.50 per text
Number of complaints 15
Source of complaint Public
Complaint from Nationwide
Fine £5000
Sanction Bar on service until compliant
Formal reprimand
(Case Ref: 700383)

11 Jun 2007
Content and/or promotion provided by 2Comm Ltd
Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Zamano Ltd
Service provider location London
Telephone network(s) All mobile networks
Service type SMS text message & WAP push
Cost 80122 - £1.50 per reverse-billed SMS (x6)
Number of complaints 18
Source of complaint Public
Complaint from Nationwide
Fine £5000
Sanction 6-month bar on service or until compliant (whichever is longer)
Formal reprimand
Refund all complainants that used the service
(Case Ref: 702122)

Alan Scott is a friend of Neil Penny (former chair of AIME - formerly NOC), colleague of Tony Kelly, and friend of James McAteer (who works for Tanla but who registered the 2Comm Domain Name).

Alan Scott and Tony Kelly used to work for 3business with Ian Vaughan (former flying instructor - see also here )

3business.com = MMs3

There are a few people out there who are rather unhappy with this firm.

3Business also ran the One Goal Ltd scam.

Alan Scott J'Accuse!

[Hamlet]

Does anyone know this woman, Lola De Jesus? On the photo she is looking like ... no, I don't want to bias your cognition

http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/LolaDeJesus

She is account manager at "Atlas Interactive", apparently from Buenos Aires.

[El Gringo]

Telecom Billing Services Ltd (TBS) Persolvo Debt Collection Ltd ... (part of Atlas Group)
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/s...0&postcount=45

what was the guys name that BBC Watchdog chased in London?

EDIT
ah i remember
Sirous Nanevazadeh not an Old Boy though (to my knowlege)

[Hamlet]

of course they are Old Boys...

http://www.publi-com.dk/Site/Forms/P...cvrnr=17573993

IBC International
Cvr-nr: [company #] 17573993 (=A/S215808)
Startdato: 12.01.1994
Ophørsdato: 13.01.2005
Adresse: Datavej 48
3460 Birkerød


Navn: Bertrand Pierre Folliet
Adresse: 19 B Cimbria Court, Conduit Road 24, Mid-Levels, Hong Kong
Tilknyttede virksomheder: Cvr-nr: 17573993 - IBC INTERNATIONAL A/S

Navn: Frank Chi Fai Cheung
Titel:
Adresse: Flat G, 12/F Sceneaway Garden, Lam Tin, Kowloon, Hong Kong
Cvr-nr: 17573993 - IBC INTERNATIONAL A/S

FRANK CHI FAI CHEUNG: --> VISL (Cable & Wireless Hong Kong)
--> Andrew Wilson, Carl Gunell (old boy!)


Owners of CELLCAST GROUP as of 4/2008
http://www.cellcast.co.uk/html/inves...er_profile.asp

Neil C* 13,829,927 18.31%
SMS Media Limited (note 1) 9,680,062 12.82%
Atlas Group of Companies 8,645,635 11.45%
Harkness Trading Limited (note 2) 6,687,500 8.86%
MTouche Technology Berhad 4,500,000 5.96%

Note 1: controlled by Harkness Trading Limited
Note 2: controlled by Andrew Wilson and Bertrand Folliet

Another "Old Boy" was with Cellcast and with "SMS Media Limited" (until August 2005 as far as I remember)
Mr Craig Gardiner

George kidd the dirty old bugger

Originally Posted by Craig Gardiner

[Hamlet]

IBC Spain S.L.
Rico Cejudo 1, 11 C
41005 Sevilla
Tel +34 954 57 40 68
Fax +34 954 58 23 06

http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/TomHorsey

12 years experience in premium telephony, starting out at ad agency MD Marketing, then moving to MSB-TBS Spain/IBC International, and most recently Froggie (Mobile Marketing Agency) and Publicidad Interactiva (Mobile Advertising Agency). We deal mainly with Spain, Mexico and Argentina on the Mobile Marketing side, and Spain, UK, Portugal, US, Germany and Sweden on the Mobile Advertising side.

Horsey is still doing business with Jens Haxgart in Sevilla.
Haxgart's Creafi did buy Horsey's spanish company
see
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomhorsey

Jens Haxgart: Creafi, IBC, and others

or vice versa?
"in 2007 I bought into Creafi Communications a fast growing internet advertising network and advertising brokerage. "

The danes always had good friends in the UK. Ask Mr K

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a note to the media: of course I am not free of errors or misinterpretaions, but if you need a proof for any particular topic or relationship, let me know. I'll see what can be done.

[Hamlet]

Here is another very interesting "attendees list"

NOC Special Interest Group No.4 UK myhotel London 2 May 2001 1. Attending: Apologies:
Coulomb, Dave Knell
Opera, Mark Nuttall
GIB, Adam Maxted
Norweb, Tony Gellman
Global Comms, Danny Crossen
Redstone, Jack Barnard
Global Comms, Kevin Swayne
TPC, Paul Hargrave
Intelliplus, Tracey Miller
Lilley, Steve Lilley
Netcollex Ltd, Rob Johnson
Opal Telecoms, Tony Couch
OWT, Nicholas Nordqvist
OWT, David Wiseman
Sky Telemedia, Craig Gardiner
Telecom 1, Anthony Rees
Tiscali UK, Kevin Gray

ICSTIS, Suhail Bhat
ICSTIS, Xerxes Kazak
ICSTIS, George Kidd
ICSTIS, Miranda Roberts
ICSTIS, Paul Whiteing
NOC, Sandy Downs
NOC, Roy Ellyatt
NOC, Laura Meecham

Shouldn't GEORGE KIDD be invited to join the PRS Old Boys Group?


or this one:

Meeting Notes for NOC Special Interest Group 4 (SIG 4) – UK Budapest. 5 April 2001

Present:
Barry Hall - C&W
Alison Hutchinson - C&W
Adam Maxted - GIB
Tracey Miller - Intelliplus
Rachel Moss - Norweb Telecom
Tony Gellman - “
David Wiseman - OneWorld Telecom
Carl Bennet - Opal Telecom
Robert Kelsey - Premier
Charles Faris - Redcar
Jack Barnard - Redstone Telecom
Alan Savitt - Sky Telecom
Craig Gardiner - “
Paul Hargrave - TPC
Warwick Izzard - OFTEL
Paul Whiteing - ICSTIS
Toby Padgham - NOC
Roy Ellyatt - NOC


Kidd and Whiteing, the sheriff and his deputy - I hope they had a good conversation with the Old Boys.

Grumbletext's analysis of information on both the ICSTIS and Grumbletext websites has revealed that it is indeed only a handful of network operators actively engaged in this grubby business. At the time of writing, 85% of all premium rate landline-based complaints on Grumbletext are accounted for by clients of the following five companies:
Redstone PLC 27.9%
Intelliplus Group PLC 22.2%
Opera Telecom 13.1%
Switch Call Limited 11.9%
Tiscali UK Limited 10.6%

Originally Posted by Grumbletext, 2004

[El Gringo]

One of the PRS Old Boys (Alex Robson aka Spaceman) has been sending Andrew Penman (The Mirror) pervy text messages "Im home alone in just a skimpy top bored and need some action Call me on my landline 02081145407 Im ready anytime Sue ;-)"

[Hamlet]

One of the PRS Old Boys (Alex Robson aka Spaceman) (...)
text messages "Im home alone in just a skimpy top bored and need some action Call me on my landline 02081145407 Im ready anytime Sue ;-)"

Originally Posted by El Gringo

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07826095462


But it is not THIS Alex Robson?
http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?62%2e17...72%2e147%2e127

IBC UK Ltd.
39 North End Road
Kensington
London W14

If it IS the same Alex Robson, someone should invite the Mirror here

[Hamlet]

In a comment by Mike there is Alex Robson quoted

This is what by Alex Robson had to say on March 26, 2008 at 11:56pm:

Old Boys club? Starting to look more like an ICSTIS [the old name for PhonePayPlus] rouges (sic)gallery !

You should date your 1st fine to be a member. I remember it was £450 and something to do with Darren Platt. Costs £1,200 now for them to send you an e-mail with allegations now. LOL

For those of you who do not know who DARREN PLATT is...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/south...scamming.shtml

Owners of mobile telephones across the country have been inundated by unwanted text messages informing them they have won £400.
...
Inside Out traced some of these unwanted text messages to Z Max Phone Services of Bournemouth and KT Promotions of Cheltenham.

Both companies have been sending out text messages telling people they have won a huge cash prize.

Details of the companies' addresses were supplied by Nexus to the regulator. But when we visited the addresses, they proved to be false.

The contact telephone number for Z Max Phone Services was also the same for KT Promotions.
A breach of guidelines

ICSTIS director George Kidd says Mr Platt has breached the guidelines both as a service provider and a network operator.
Chris Packham with a giant phone
Chris Packham hangs on… and on. Calls can take up to five minutes and can cost as much £7.50. but there is seldom a big cash prize

"It's a problem if you have an individual who has been involved as a service provider, who knows how it works," explains Mr Kidd.

"And then as a network operator is prepared to allow other people to do the same thing which he knows is intolerable to us because he has been prosecuted for the very same offence."

Mr Kidd continues, "When it comes to Darren Platt, who has been operating these services, and is also a network operator, the phrase "should have known better" comes to mind."

ref.
OFCOM vs NEXUS
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/bulletins/co...ed_all/cw_829/



Mr Kidd... you should have known better comes to MY mind whenever I'm thinking of YOU...!!!

Wasn't Darren Platt, together with M*** S*** P***, Patrick Naughton and Antony Redfern, one of the early managers with TELECOM ONE???

[edit: I have not found any link or proof for Darren Platt being with Telecom One, but I'm quite sure... But as long as I can't remember where I know that from you have to read it with a big ???]

You could look into Premium Rate Scam Topics from wherever you want - you are always able to trace it back to the orbit of the same old mob.
And if Mr Kidd really is trying to say that he didn't know that for very very long - then this guy must be - I'm sorry - completely MERKBEFREIT.

horsewhip! horsewhip! horsewhip!


among the friends of Mr Robson you find Mr Craig Gardiner and Mr Anthony Rees

Sky Telemedia, Craig Gardiner
Telecom 1, Anthony Rees (was he ever at T1 together with Platt? Don't know)

[El Gringo]

Alex Robson

http://www.tele-billing.com/about.html
ABOUT US
TeleBilling Ltd. is a European telephone billing company with branches all over Europe, offering services to more than seven million customers. There are a variety of telephone services offered including the following:

Frequently Asked Questions

5. Why is the bill in my name when I do not own the phone (or I didn't make the calls)?

1. If a minor has used the telephone they would have been asked to nominate an adult to receive the bill on their behalf. (a block can be placed on your telephone number if required)

2. If the telephone is yours and you are unaware of the calls made from it, you are still responsible for any debt that is incurred by your telephone.

rememember IBC Telecom Billing Systems / they were/are a European telephone billing company with branches all over Europe /is there any easy connection?

http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/busin...p?cmd=3&id=433
Background

A complaint was received from a London primary school about the receipt of explicit promotional material for live adult services, which was sent in the post along with an invoice for the alleged use of adult services on a geographical London number.

The primary school stated that whilst the geographical number had been briefly called in error (a misdial) no-one had taken part in adult services and no-one had consented to receive promotional material for adult premium rate services.

@Hamlet: remind me, it was TBS>IBC>Atlas?

[Hamlet]

It's not that easy. Simplified you can say:

Cable & Wireless Hong Kong (1) (2) (3) (4) --> Cellcast / Atlas (1) (4)
and
IBC (2) (4) ~ Telebilling
and
Cable & Wireless Hong Kong (1) (2) (3) (4) ~ IBC (1) (2) (4)

Craig Gardiner
Andrew Wilson (1)
Frank CF Cheung (2)
Carl Gunell (3)
Bertrand Folliet (4)
Jens Haxgart
Tom Horsey (Sevilla)

see: new developments in Australia
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/s...028#post219028

[Hamlet]

I'm rolling on the floor laughing!!!

Who is LEE ALI, the maker of the telemedianetwork?

Lee Ali, is responsible for the management and strategic development of Opera Telecom's International Premium Rate and Premium SMS billing Network and Mobile product offering, and ensuring that Opera Telecom maintains its position as a leading provider of cutting edge technology and Premium Billing platforms in the fast changing global market place today. Prior to joining Opera Telecom 3 years ago, Ali ran his own Internet marketing consultancy for several years helping Adult businesses make the most out of Internet Marketing. Overall Ali has over 10 years worth of Telecoms and Internet experience, including 4 years in Sales management with Cable and Wireless Communications, and several years in Business development with leading European Internet Service Providers. Ali is a full Member of the Institute of Sales and Marketing Management.

no comment.

[Hamlet]

Did you know that I once had a girl named Susanne? Ooooh I really loved her, but she left me for a damned frenchman from Aix-en-provence (or was it Dijon? Memory is a bitch). Oh no. This is not what I wanted to tell you. Here we have Susanne Torz. Who is she?

Her name sounds German
Her only friend is Anthony Rees http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/friends/SusanneTorz
She says she is in Cyprus.

Who is she???


PIT LTD. 20 Queen Frederica Street, El Greco House, Nicosia Cyprus.
Tel: +357 22873 907 Fax:+357 22873 909 Email: susanne@phoneimpact.com
Strange company... Nameserver is in Israel, could make sense - contact number is in Tuvalu, never heard anything 'bout that company, although they say they are in the biz since 1995.
http://www.phoneimpact.com/i_services.html

worth a closer look. But I always keep on thinking about my Susanne whenever I read Susanne. It keeps me from being interested in PR scammers all the time. Susanne makes me think of Ploumanac'h. Have you ever been there? One of the most wonderful places I know - except of Giants Causeway in Northern Ireland - of course. And Preikestolen in Norway.

Ooops. off topic today.

[Hamlet]

of course they are Old Boys...

http://www.publi-com.dk/Site/Forms/P...cvrnr=17573993

IBC International
Cvr-nr: [company #] 17573993 (=A/S215808)
Startdato: 12.01.1994
Ophørsdato: 13.01.2005
Adresse: Datavej 48
3460 Birkerød


Navn: Bertrand Pierre Folliet
Adresse: 19 B Cimbria Court, Conduit Road 24, Mid-Levels, Hong Kong
Tilknyttede virksomheder: Cvr-nr: 17573993 - IBC INTERNATIONAL A/S

Navn: Frank Chi Fai Cheung
Titel:
Adresse: Flat G, 12/F Sceneaway Garden, Lam Tin, Kowloon, Hong Kong
Cvr-nr: 17573993 - IBC INTERNATIONAL A/S

FRANK CHI FAI CHEUNG: --> VISL (Cable & Wireless Hong Kong)

Originally Posted by Hamlet

Andrew Wilson as well as Folliet have been with "E-Lux Corporation". A Hong Kong company "Worldwide Venture Ltd" was owned (1/3) by that company.
They have been mentioned in German complaints about "you have won... diall PRN" in 2005. I have already posted a lot of stuff about the international aspects of that topic.

A few days ago there was a new complaint against "Worldwide Venture Limited" because of spam ("you have won... dial..."). A German company said "They rented PRN from us". The managers of that company are identical to the directors of "Ina Service", the former company of Mr Priewe (who is now with Cellcast/Atlas).
On a website owned by MP himself "Worldwide venture limited" was named as the company offering a "Handychat" with Premium-texts (from Ina).
So, Mr Priewe is not a member of the "Old Boys". But he is worth to be mentioned. Maybe he cannot join the Group because he never got a fine from the Regulator - in Germany, Priewe WAS the "regulator"

http://telemedianetwork.ning.com/profile/MarcoPriewe

Working as General Manager in the German Telemedia Industry since 1996. Co-founder of German FST e.V. and until today honorary member of the FST Board of Directors.

(German FST is running the international site of IARN
Mr Elyatt from ITA/NOC/AIME once said during a meeting with ICSTIS and IARN

"It was clear that the contact that we have worked so hard to develop over the years with ICSTIS, Ofcom and DTI is unique in Europe and other countries have a long way to go in understanding and developing the benefits of a close industry/regulator relationship."

horsewhip!

[El Gringo]

"It was clear that the contact that we have worked so hard to develop over the years with ICSTIS, Ofcom and DTI"

http://newsweaver.co.uk/noc/e_articl....cfm?x=b11,0,w
Parliamentary Dinner – 18 October 2005

A dinner hosted by Alun Michael MP, minister of State for Industry & the Regions, and Sir Peter North of ICSTIS. The invitees were a select band and included NOC, City of London Police, Vodafone, BT and others and was declared to operate under ‘Chatham Rules’ hence nothing said at the meeting could be quoted but an open exchange of views was ensured.

It was an encouraging session with widespread support for a healthy, valuable and responsible PRS Industry but managed in a collaborative fashion with a light regulatory hand.

“From an NOC perspective I was greatly encouraged to see us moving in this direction at long last and I am confident that we will see continuing change in the way PRS is regulated to the benefit of us all and including ICSTIS,” said Roy Ellyatt.

Roy forgot to mention the close relationship his 'industry' has with the police

Edit for reasons i don't fully understand this NOC pr release doesn't 'google'

[Hamlet]

[... questions to Dave Knell]
thanx, Dave! You are a good guy. Did I really doubt?

[El Gringo]

http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/news/...r_20080702.asp
3 July 2008
INVESTIGATION INTO COMPLAINTS RECEIVED REGARDING SERVICES USING AUTOMATED CALLING EQUIPMENT TO PROMOTE, AND ENCOURAGE CALLS TO, 070 PREFIXED NUMBERS CHARGED AT 50 PENCE PER MINUTE.

PhonepayPlus, the phone-paid services regulator, has launched an investigation following numerous complaints from members of the public. Having contacted the network operator through whose network the service operates, PhonepayPlus considers the service provider responsible under the PhonepayPlus Code of Practice to be ‘Jack Barnard Telecom Services Limited'.

@hamlet you said Jack Barnard- Redstone
when was he at Redstone 2004? B&B

[Hamlet]

sorry... Due to a major technical malfunction in combination with a worst scenario crisis management by Hamlet I will not have access to my database for the next weeks

[El Gringo]

it's not important i was just wondering who Jeffrey wanted to hit with the base ball bat.
Company Name:
JACK BARNARD TELECOM SERVICES LIMITED

Company No: 05445012
Incorporated: 06/05/2005
......................................
JACK BARNARD TELECOM SERVICES
About Me

For the past six years I have held the post of Head of Inbound Sales & Services at Redstone Telecom. Over the years, the role included running the PRS Sales Team, the NGS Sales Team, and for an 18 month period, the Major Accounts Sales Team. During that time, the team were responsible for generating and managing revenues worth on average £20-25 million per annum.
.............................................

[Memfis]

sorry... Due to a major technical malfunction in combination with a worst scenario crisis management by Hamlet I will not have access to my database for the next weeks

Originally Posted by Hamlet

Have you lost your db?

[thethunder]

Theres an emergency procedure on this missed call now.

[Hamlet]

[offtopic]

Have you lost your db?

Originally Posted by Memfis

I have no real "db". My archives have been built with no structure...

From time to time I have made a backup, the last in May 2008 (only partial). Now I did crash my main hard disk. For I am a much too stupid for the things I do with my system and also because I often infect my system trying to analyse malicious websites this happens quite regularly

Usually I manage to get the data back using a bunch of fine utilities. But this time the problem is different (MFT corrupt, MFT mirror corrupt). It would be possible, of course, to re-install Windows and Copernic Desktop Search (the program I use to find a needle in the haystock) and start again on the basis of the May 08 Backup (one of the hardest losses would be the Telemedia Network Mirror I have made - I cannot remember the date when I mirrored it, maybe it was BEFORE I backuped the archive, I hope so...) - but I am still trying to fix the MFT problem.

At the moment I have installed Linux (Ubuntu 8.04) and "Helix" (Knoppix based collection of forensic software) and try to understand Linux. If I will not succeed within the next week I will send image copies of my hard disk to my friends that offered help.

If anyone could give me any advice I would be glad - the rest of you may just keep the fingers crossed