ISPs that throttle p2p

[MAN WHO]

Does anyone know of a list of UK ISPs that throttle p2p traffic.

I'd be interested to see exactly what the situation is.

[Zer02004]

As far as I know, AOL is the only one who doesn't.

[MAN WHO]

wow I didn't know that!

Even ukonline?

[Zer02004]

I'm not really sure about UKO. Some reports say it's free of all throttles but worryingly, according to other users, UKO only allow traffic through a limited number of ports. I think this confusion may arise from the fact that UKO have both LLU and IPStream services in place and may treat the two differently.

[nemmie]

NTL has no throttling that Ive noticed.

I max out my connection at all times of the day and night.

[Zer02004]

Is that cable or DSL?

[nemmie]

NTL 10 meg. Cable. Dont think they throttle their adsl offering either though.

There are other DSL options that dont have throttling either. I would check ADSLGuide for the latest news on this.

[Zer02004]

It appears that NTL DSL do throttle. The concensus is that NTL DSL is very problematical and not worth the hassle. The Tesco forum here supports these feelings.
ADSLGuide is the place to look but it will almost certainly show that AOL is the only major ISP with no throttles/P2P FUPs in place. Even Zen now have limits imposed.
As AOL UK is up for sale, even this may not be the case for long.

[Zer02004]

Even if NTL do not throttle their BTw based DSL services, they're not worth looking at anyway:

Connection speed		Usage Limit	Cost
Up to 1Mb			5GB		£17.99
1 Mb With telephone service	30GB		From £16.99

These figures are total allowances, not just download limits.
http://www.home.ntl.com/page/userpolicy

[puggsley1980]

Maybe this is related but i'm not sure, my P2P traffic and torrent traffic only really runs fully over night (12:30-5:30am), is that an example of a ISP throttling traffic? I'm with TalkTalk.

[Zer02004]

TalkTalk most certainly throttle P2P. There has been some talk that they will ban it altogether but how much substance there is in this I'm not sure.

[scr]

When I finally got my talk talk broadband working I didn't notice any difference between download speeds during the day or the night, I was happily chugging along at 80 to 200 kB/s depending on the health of the torrent. Over the last week or so I've noticed that at night I can download at a reasonable speed, but still not as good as previously. (Max seems to be about 60 to 80). Daytime is horrendous though, I am lucky if I get 5 or 6 kB/s regardless of the health.

[puggsley1980]

Welcome to the wonderful world of P2P throttling!

Trust the ISP's to make Broadband irrelivant!

[scr]

At these speeds I may as well be on dial up!

.well I have been with talk talk since August and everything was fine until 2/3 weeks ago ,if I try to download through p2p after some minutes my connection terminates,and will not reconnect until I restart computer.
which is more than bloody annoying,what I would like to know have I enough reason to cancel with Talk Talk,without being penalised,and is there anything illegal in what they are doing?,especially as my broadband is not free ,as I have to pay £10 a month

[Zer02004]

First of all you need to check your system for infection as that doesn't sound like throttling/blocking to me.

I think you'll find that TTs T&Cs will cover them for this eventuality anyway. Did you read them before signing up?

AOL are throttling connections between 7:30pm and 12:05am. I'm on there top connection(up to 8meg) and at the moment my speed is-

Speed Test Results
Downstream 563.4 Kbps ( = 0.6 Mbps )
Upstream 371.9 Kbps ( = 0.4 Mbps )

Which is bloody annoying. There all at it nowadays and it's friggin wrong if you ask me.

[SaintSinner]

*sigh* I'm getting ready to move to the UK (3.5 weeks and counting) and it seems I'm seriously going to miss my current net connection. Are there any ISPs that do not filter at all and serve the midlands? Failing that, are there any ISPs that don't filter NNTP traffic? Failing that, anyone want to start an ISP?

Seriously, recomendations are most appreciated.

Thanks!

[puggsley1980]

BeThere do not filter but they only serve Birmingham, Manchester and London? I'm not getting anywhere near the advertised 24meg (do you ever?) but its still a great improvement on TalkTalk.

I've also been told that Pipex do not filter, but i've not seen it for myself.

[SaintSinner]

Heh, unfortunately I'm in leicester (the exchange is due to be upgraded in 2011, woo woo?)

Be replied very nicely to my msg asking about service:

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Thank you for contacting us. Unfortunately we are still not active in your area and up to now we do not have plans for the activation of your exchange.


Kind regards
Be* team

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That has to be the nicest way I've been told to bugger off so far ;-)

Currently I'm arguing with BT over the fact that my flat does exist. They've found the address, but not the flat number, so I have to call back monday morning and speak to an address specialist.

At least I've figured out I can call 0800 numbers from the states, so there's a vauge chance I'll at least have the land line portion of my internet service up before I arrive (day after boxing day).

It's a shame that cable TV isn't more prevelant in the UK, they tend to be a bit nicer about bandwidth utilization. But I'll prevail, even if I have to figure out a way to wrap my transfers in ssh or something ;-)

Keep the suggestions coming, and thanks for the help again.

[puggsley1980]

The address problem is all to common with BT. There database is shockingly out of date, i had the same issue with my flat and after i finally got BT to find it, it turned out the line was already active! Doh!

[DCP11OC]

Zero, did you say that AOL UK is up for sale?
"And he thought it was safe going back to them"

[Phaedrus]

Eclipse throttle Usenet and P2P heavily and even normal http traffic is "shaped" to the point of feeling like dial up.
Migrated to Zen who do set download limits per package (with option to buy more GB`s), but do not traffic shape or throttle as far as I can tell.

Trev.

I think a petition may be in order here! I'm on PlusNet and they used to be good about 3 years ago - my download speeds were excellent. They are now the worst thing ever - I'll be lucky to get up to 2kB torrent download speeds on my supposed 8mb connection (and that's on a well shared torrent!) Bandwidth shaping should be illegal - this is anything but "Fair Usage" - it's greedy daylight robbery - shame on you PlusNet - I'll be moving ISP asap I think! Plus, even if it downloading at 2kB, I can't browse the internet - it completely stalls. Apparently they use Ellacoya. I've checked it out - what a load of garbage. My £21.99 a month is obviously going down the drain - ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - WORST THING EVER!

Jason

[DavidC]

Tesco don't throttle speeds or block ports but you can only get up to 2M/256K max so if you need faster they are a no go.

I'm getting good connection reliability and speeds from Tesco and have recommended them to others who have joined and are also happy - It would be hard not to improve on my previous ISP Tiscali!!

[Olozzj]

BTW, i thought i'd just add to this by saying AOL have been bought by TalkTalk, and TalkTalk are starting to fish into their network, so expect the slowest of slow P2P speeds. Oh, and if the over-subscribed network doesn't get you, the very strict FUP planned for February will.

AOL

I just got talktalk broadband, and I'm getting slower speeds than my old orange/wanadoo 512kb connection. I am not a happy man. UGH!!!!

[Olozzj]

If you try running a speed test at non-peak times (ex-6pm-12am) i bet you'll get at least double, if not triple the speed you do at peak times. If you haven't guessed already, it means their wholesale supplier's network (Opal) is way oversubscribed and cannot handle the demands talktalk is placing on it.

Anyhow, that asside free or cheap broadband will never give good service, and if that's what you're after you will have to pay for it.

[puggsley1980]

TalkTalk sucks more than a big sucky thing, cancel it as soon as you can.

[TheARC]

AOL are throttling connections between 7:30pm and 12:05am. I'm on there top connection(up to 8meg) and at the moment my speed is-

Speed Test Results
Downstream 563.4 Kbps ( = 0.6 Mbps )
Upstream 371.9 Kbps ( = 0.4 Mbps )

Which is bloody annoying. There all at it nowadays and it's friggin wrong if you ask me.

Originally Posted by anonymous

This is not throttling..

If aol were throttling peer2peer, then your downloads via your p2p client would be very slow. Upon running a normal every day speedtest in your browser http traffic, this comes back with a normal result. i.e. perfect speed

What you are seeing possibly down to congestion at the exchange.. do a search on google for sam knows. use their broadband checker, then click the link for your exchange.. you can get further information on it then..